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    • foreverlurkF
      foreverlurk GIANT
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      Have a look at the email I received this morning from OpenAI (creators of the DALL-E AI I’m using for some of my gens):

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      What!? I wonder what could have triggered that, like 95% of my stuff is so tame. I did get flagged for “putting persons in vulnerable positions or situations”, lol. Gee, that’s kinda how I roll, OpenAI. I’ll have to be more careful, I guess. I did argue with the AI (pointless, I know!) and got this reply:

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      WTF…
      😠 😲 😧

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      • NyxN
        Nyx @foreverlurk
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        @foreverlurk I can understand not allowing violent or sexual content, but jeez, that is bad.

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        • OloO
          Olo GIANT @foreverlurk
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          @foreverlurk What I find so vexing about this is that you have no reason not to believe that either the original email or the response to your protest was, itself, generated by ChatGPT. You have no way of knowing whether this policy or its specific interpretation in your case was actually written or even approved by a human.

          Despite the fact that your prompts and results are quite benign (or, as we say in the size smut biz, “Gentle”), I suspect that DALL-E (and other image generators) have been flooded with prompts that are not so benign, and someone (a human?) has determined that the power disparity in size differential is, ipso facto, always “problematic.” Coming from someone experienced in Size Fantasy, that might be a defensible position, but here it’s obviously just a convenient bright line for making corporate policy decisions.

          All my M/f stories and discussions can be found here.

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          • foreverlurkF
            foreverlurk GIANT @Nyx
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            @Nyx yeah and that didn’t come out of nowhere, they trained the AI to identify such content, and then to view it as “bad” and against their TOS and/or their own sense of morality.

            I find it aggressive to receive this email and be treated like I’m generating hardcore shit. 😠

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            • foreverlurkF
              foreverlurk GIANT @Olo
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              @Olo Now that I think about it, you may be right about the re-classification of size difference, as they are constantly adjusting the filters and being flooded with size requests must have triggered some manual(?) interventions recently.

              And you also raise a very good point : I don’t know WHAT I did exactly against the TOS, there is no trace or proof, and I don’t know if this was an automatic process or a manual review of some kind.

              Both possibilities are scary for different reasons.

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              • OloO
                Olo GIANT @foreverlurk
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                @foreverlurk And they’ve apparently (and conveniently for them) decided to prohibit all size differential without further review. That’s fucked up.

                All my M/f stories and discussions can be found here.

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                • nephilimN
                  nephilim tiny woman
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                  GEEZ. Talk about INJECTING moral platitudes into the system.

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                  A dark romance series with an injection of giant-kink, vore-kink, legend and lore.

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                  • giantmaneddieG
                    giantmaneddie GIANT
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                    That’s random. Are you gonna jump to a new program?

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                    • foreverlurkF
                      foreverlurk GIANT @giantmaneddie
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                      @giantmaneddie I don’t know at this point, I’m already using Stable Diffusion a lot too. Waiting for MidJourney to release version 6 (they keep delaying it), and try sizey prompts. Otherwise I do have alt acounts but I’d rather keep everything I do above ground and by the book, if possible.

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                      • OloO
                        Olo GIANT @foreverlurk
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                        @foreverlurk Which of these programs charge a fee to use?

                        All my M/f stories and discussions can be found here.

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                        • HHunter1H
                          HHunter1 GIANT
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                          Grumble Grumble Old man not like AI. Grumble

                          HH1

                          HH1

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                          • foreverlurkF
                            foreverlurk GIANT @Olo
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                            @Olo said in Lectured by AI about the morality of size difference:

                            @foreverlurk Which of these programs charge a fee to use?

                            Midjourney has a subscription, which is why I’m waiting for the new version and will evaluate pros and cons before commiting.

                            OpenAI too, I did pay the subscription, but I’m reconsidering.

                            Stable Diffusion is 100% free.

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                            • OloO
                              Olo GIANT @foreverlurk
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                              @foreverlurk Yeah, unless OpenAI can provide a more explicit policy that you violated, you have an argument for a refund.

                              All my M/f stories and discussions can be found here.

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                              • foreverlurkF
                                foreverlurk GIANT @HHunter1
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                                @HHunter1 said in Lectured by AI about the morality of size difference:

                                Grumble Grumble Old man not like AI. Grumble

                                I don’t know if you mean I’M the old man in this case… ?! I’m not THAT old, haha 😉

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                                • foreverlurkF
                                  foreverlurk GIANT @Olo
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                                  @Olo said in Lectured by AI about the morality of size difference:

                                  @foreverlurk Yeah, unless OpenAI can provide a more explicit that you violated, you have an argument for a refund.

                                  I’m thinking about it. They should be more explicit in their accusations, for sure. Maybe it’s not the size that’s the main problem, as I do have some mild nudity which technically is ALSO against their TOS.

                                  Just for the record, I’m far from the only one who received such a warning, I’m on a few AI subreddits and oh boy… some people even got temp- and perma-bans.

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