I’m also not sure if this helps… But another thing that I’m realizing has helped me is that I have a friend who is on the SM side - he thinks SW are cute but would much rather be tiny himself. And he is JUST as bothered by judgy GTS fans as we are and also thinks there should be more variety in content. It helps me to hear that kind of thing from him and know that the toxicity comes from a very loud minority.

Also to try and make people and myself feel better about the M/f community have a lot less content than the F/m, here some positives about being in a small community :),
A thing I like about being in the M/f community, it could just be me, but I feel as if there is more of a focus on people’s individuality in their art style. Because there is less content, your art tends to get drowned out less by other artists and there is less competition. As a person who likes to make art and has done so on this site before, I can confirm there is more emphasis on the uniqness of others artstyle. For instance @Dirtybun is a very talented artist, if I am not mistaken they go by x2dirtybun on DA (also happy birthday if you are reading this). Out of all the gts content I have seen, I don’t think I will ever find a person like her in the F/m community. She has such well designed ocs and her shading is such a unique style. There is also @littlest-lily who is great on both her writing and drawing. I have not read all her works(I’m a slow reader), but I have read some of raindrops on the windowsill and there is a great emphasis on emotion. I feel as if her works aren’t just unique in the size community but in writing as a whole to me.
Another thing that is great is that there is no competition, if there is it’s very minuscule. The art world does tend to get competitive. And so there does tend to get quite a bit of tension in it. But since this community has no competition, it has a relaxed feel.
Those were just some positives from my experience. I hope this made anyone feel better. As Jitensha said, “fight for love because you deserve it”.

(Disclaimer: just to be safe, I am not trying to say the M/f community is better than the F/m community in anyway. Also if you are wondering if I have a DA, I am sorry to say that I only use it as a guest)

Is it really feminist to worship giant women as oversized and dommy sex objects? Some male F/m fans still fail to see women as human beings first, sexual objects second.

These F/m fans don’t seem know what feminism actually is. Feminism is about respecting women and letting them be themselves, not forcing them into a domineering position. Which is why it pisses me off when people label M/f as misogynistic. If you don’t struggle with misogyny or have grasped an understanding of what it is, then you have no right to label what is misogynistic or not.

You’ve nailed why I basically don’t want to interact with straight F/m fans. You and the previous commenter speaking from years of experience.

Is it really feminist to worship giant women as oversized and dommy sex objects? Some male F/m fans still fail to see women as human beings first, sexual objects second. The only consolation I get from thinking about misogynist shitbirds like this is that they usually scare dates away IRL.

But that’s just my bitterness at experiences of being turned into a GTS object without my specific permission showing. (Giant men are welcome to turn my kink characters into a snack or a bug, the key difference there is I asked for it.)

So much stuff is gate kept behind ‘this woman is big’ that, even if the story is about a woman shrinking, the branding behind it is that ‘this other woman is SOOO big!!! (proportionately)’ that there’s a bunch of SW stuff on e-hentai and the like I’d have missed if I never looked at the giantess category.

There are a bunch of de facto SW stories in the various GTS sites that will never never see the light of day in an SW focused forum. And, honestly? I’ve sped-read through so much GTS stuff, looking for SW gold, that I’ve realized they just have all these story options we don’t ever use that would work just as well flipped around. A lot of my current bent in my story planning is trying to apply ‘X’ GTS trope to a GT/sw format.

I have my theories about why its like this, but it’s just… tiring, looking for that needle in the haystack, every time. I’ve been force fed so much GTS content when I was starting out, looking for stuff, figuring out what I wanted, that I grew to hate it more because it’s popular than anything else, to the point where I usually give up on a story if it’s SW and SM… if only because the SW is usually a mini-giantess to said SM.

It’s easy to wonder if there’s something wrong with me being size-y but not liking GTS since, clearly, everyone else seems to.

I swear, half the problem is these shitbirds treating all female-presenting people as NPCs without desires or preferences of their own who are only online to perform for them.

But as time went on, I started hearing the stories about how these “Sexually enlightened” individuals would bully and harass women for not partaking in their shitty little fantasies.

This has been for my experience for years and one of the reasons why I’m only active in a few communities now.

@Nyx Don’t let those toxic people get you. Stay strong

Thank you! I try to focus on the positive aspects of the size community whenever I can.

I’ve spent my entire post pubescent life grappling with the concept of Male and Female power dynamics. On one hand, I’m a Race and Gender Abolitionist. I’m a good feminist and soldier for Gaia, I believe that patriarchal power structures supported by the capitalistic power of Mammon will not just be the death of my country, but the world if not demolished and abolished. I’ve dedicated my life to fighting the monstrous society under which we all currently exist and long to build a better, more equitable world.

On the other hand, I’m a rapacious sexual sadist with a bottomless appetite for domination, subjugation and blood. I’ve felt a terrible guilt and rage my entire life, nurtured and shaped by my catholic upbringing. I used to beat myself up for liking sexual situations about shrinking and dominating powerless, tiny, helpless women. I truly bought into the fact that I was an evil monster, existing solely on this earth to torment and be tormented.

And then I found the size community.

When I was young, I envied tiny men. Here was a large group of men who found female empowerment sexy by every definition of the phrase. I asked why I was such a coward, someone who needed to dominate and bully his sexual partners to find release. I began overcompensating in the opposite direction. It is for that reason today that even though I’m a perverted weirdo, I still try to be a gentleman.

But as time went on, I started hearing the stories about how these “Sexually enlightened” individuals would bully and harass women for not partaking in their shitty little fantasies. My shame began to metamorphose into seething rage. This whole time, they preached empowerment and women’s lib as a cover to ride a powerful woman like a pack animal. The stories just kept pouring in year after year. My contempt grew like a weed. Not only are these little rat dicks eclipsing all other content, they give the rest of us tangentially related to them a bad name.

I don’t feel this way about tiny gay men, they are an entirely different phenomenon. There is a specific type of straight, mostly white, tiny, usually conservative leaning male. They make my skin crawl and my blood boil.

I began to see this prejudice in myself, and like a good little catholic boy I got out my cat-o-nine-tails and began to punish myself. I went out of my way to be nice to these people. Then one of them stabbed me in the back (Metaphorically).

Don’t envy those people. They are vile. They are beneath your contempt. They are not worthy of your time, attention, or even a moment’s thought. They certainly aren’t worth mine.

It can be really difficult being part of a niche within a niche. But this community shown me there are something’s to look up to when being part of a very small community. For me, it seems as if there is less toxicity because there are less people and so less discourse.

Thank you for sharing some tips that can help me cope.

Sometimes venting without searching for a solution is necessary, and I totally don’t mean to take away from that! But I figured I’d share some of the things that have helped me personally with this.

For one, being part of this community helps a ton. I enjoy content like stories/art/etc, but I really value conversation too, and it helps to feel less alone. I hardly ever look at any content/discourse around GTS anymore and it’s easier to focus on the plethora of M/f content that DOES exist.

Creating my own stuff was also huge for me. In almost everything I do I LOVE being creative, and directing that towards size stuff with drawing, writing, crafting, etc is something that I’ve found profoundly fulfilling. Not only that, but I’ve found that by sharing my creative projects I’ve been able to find more like-minded people and then engage with their content, and that’s been lovely too.

I’ve also been finding a lot of fulfillment in the SFW community. This works for me because, personally, 9 times out of 10 I’m not looking for anything sexual. I just love the angst, the fluff, the adventure that can come with shrinking. And maybe it’s because it’s not porn, but I’ve found more M/f content (proportionally to other gender combos) on the sfw side than the nsfw side.

I try my best to address the balance (though I’m largely selfish - I make art of the stuff I want to see more of). But it’s depressing to think about how much of an uphill climb it will likely always be within our culture on the whole.

There really isn’t much to do about this except to be vocal about male giants and shrunken women whenever size fantasy is discussed. I admit I enjoy riling up the gobbess-bois over at Giantess City by insisting on equal time for M/f. The struggle will never be won in our lifetimes, but we will be heard.

One way it’s been particularly annoying is that for video content, I can’t really stand most videos, because I am absolutely taken out of the fantasy by bad acting on the giant’s part. I already have enough trouble believing in the scene while watching the video, bad acting ruins it for me. Because of this I only like a handful of creators who make moody giant man videos with no dialogue, and CG artists.

And the CG artists are overwhelmingly giantess artists. There is no 3d artist making high quality, clip-length videos about vore or large size differences with giant men. I am just barely bisexual enough to enjoy Wiiking’s videos. (The Locker Room , etc.) He’s an absolute master of 3d vore movies, but it’s ALWAYS women around shrunken women and men. I’ve fantasized about being rich and commissioning him for many months of his time to make just one M/f vore masterpiece. But I may as well just fantasize about a giant dude being real at that rate!

It’s frustrating being in a niche part of a niche subculture! I’m there with you!