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Perspectives
So, an exchange in the Unfortunate Alice thread prompted me to think more about a question about perspectives in size fantasy that I’ve been wrestling with for a while now. How much do you really want to know about your fantasy object?
If you identify as a tiny woman in a M/f scenario, do want to know what’s going on in the big guy’s head, do you want to project your own preferences onto him, or do you want him to remain mysterious and overwhelming? I know what I like as a size fantasist, but as a size writer I often wonder which perspectives and how much depth I should include.
I don’t think there’s much question that the majority of size fantasists primarily identify as tiny, with the consequence that the “classic” size fantasy story is written from the tiny’s perspective. In such stories, the giant characters are generally free to pursue their own agendas without having to explain or justify them, and the drama comes from the tiny characters having to anticipate and adapt to those agendas. Mysterious or arbitrary giants therefore often make good plot devices.
Size fantasy has become more sophisticated since we all found each other and started creating for people other than ourselves. We have begun to think about not only what we want to see but also how we want to be seen, about who else has found their way to size fantasy and what they want to see. “Classic” relationships can be inverted, trying on different perspectives or just mixing things up and seeing what happens.
I’m just curious as to what everyone’s tastes are as far as this goes. Sometimes I prefer a refreshing change of perspective, but often I just need my itches scratched, and long stories with complex characters and plots can divert from that. I still maintain that real characters make for hot smut, but I don’t always have a good feel for when to just lean into the tropes we all know and love.
For example, my story series Taken is written from the perspective of Gordon, a man compelled to shrink women and take them for his pleasure. The narrative is deeply embedded in his own desires and anxieties, and he is often a comic or a tragic figure. I wrote it this way partly because I wanted to subvert the stereotype of the mysterious and confident giant, partly because I was trying to stretch my literary legs, but mostly because I wanted to explore what kind of man would kidnap, rape, and devour women and how he would think of himself. If you’re a tiny woman who gets off on reading about such a man, do you want to know what’s going on in his head or do you just want to see him get down to business?
There is no “bad” answer here; all opinions and preferences are valid.
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RE: SW in Gen V
@littlest-lily Be warned: The Boys is notorious for graphic violence and explicit sex, and judging from the trailer we can expect the same from Gen V.
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RE: Hypnotizing
@littlest-lily Ryder continues to take presumptuous liberties with Isabelle, but perhaps my favorite presumption is giving her a pet name. With peers one tries out a nickname to see if the subject will permit its use before adopting it. Ryder extends no such courtesy to “Sweetie.”
“You and I have a unique bond”
At least she’s honest with herself about how attractive she finds this situation and not pretending to be gaslit. I wonder if she’ll think to ask him how many others he’s “sent down there” and what happened to them.
Looking forward to the smut…
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RE: Perspectives
@hentaihunter1 said in Perspectives:
I don’t really have any giant stories, I just don’t know what else to call them. Cagers? Reducers? Did I miss the slang memo for this?
I’ve never seen slang or a tag for this, but I’d nominate “Collectors.”
I don’t think I have any personally written stories that switch between shrunken and Giant though, maybe I should.
I didn’t want to imply that all stories could be divided into “giant’s perspective” and “tiny’s perspective;” there are endless variations and configurations. When it comes to smut, it generally helps to have someone’s perspective in order to show their sensations and emotions and thoughts. However, I’ve read successful (that is, arousing) stories that were just straight-up third-person reporting of events that didn’t get into anyone’s heads.
Of course, it’s always more difficult to write from the perspective of a different gender, orientation, or kink than your own, but that’s not a reason not to try. As always, the solution is to encourage greater diversity in both writers and readers.
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RE: SW in Gen V
@Mrgoblinging7 I have complicated thoughts and feelings about this. My formative years occurred before the Internet, so I thought I was the only size perv on the planet. Mainstream size content was all I had. I developed a keen sense for determining what sort of TV shows, movies, books, and comics might feature size content, and how likely such content might contain risqué hints. The best you could realistically hope for was a lingering handheld, a little unaware contact, or some lewd innuendo. Since no one acknowledged size as a fetish, any such scenario would most likely occur in a humorous or horrific context. Cartoons in adult magazines were the best bet, but even there it was very slim pickings.
The other aspect of being reliant on mainstream size content was knowing that if a given TV show or comic series ever did feature a size scenario, it would almost certainly be the last time it did, because the normies would become bored if the show kept returning to the size well. This made those rare size episodes even more fraught, as I knew this was the only chance I might ever get to see, say, a tiny Mork in the same frame with a normal-sized Mindy or a shrunken Diana Rigg crawling about on a giant desktop. Children’s shows were more frequent in their use of size themes because they didn’t expect their audiences either to remember the last time or to care if they repeated themselves, but they were also much less likely to even hint at sizey sexytimes.
In recent decades, however, the Internet has revealed us size pervs to each other and, so-very-slightly, to popular culture. There’s also simply more entertainment content out there (including previously-inaccessible foreign sources), and size content has increased commensurately. There are therefore many more opportunities to encounter mainstream size content, and just as many opportunities for it to be more embarrassing than arousing.
Perhaps because I “imprinted” on mainstream size content, I am still often satisfied when a size encounter keeps the sexual possibilities as subtext. As the volume of size content grows and special effects become cheaper, there will always be opportunities for lascivious leering, indecent proposals, and inappropriate handling. It’s a fine line for mainstream content producers to walk, and I share the Goblin King’s worry that explicit sizey sexytimes can come across as mockery.
The Boys surprised me with Termite. They retconned his character to include a throwaway sight gag from the first season opener, and I was certain that the big splash he made in the third season opener would be the last we would see of him. That they brought him back for “Herogasm” made me worry that either a) mainstream fans would (justly) complain that the show was running out of ideas or b) they were making fun of size pervs. Fortunately, his appearance was just decorative and didn’t derail the plot.
This was also a worry with Downsizing. An R-rated movie from a director with a history of shooting comical nude scenes had the potential to be either miraculous or catastrophic in its presentation of size sexytimes. An early draft of the screenplay had a brief sex scene between different-size characters, mostly off-screen but leaving no doubt about what was happening. I suppose we should be grateful that the finished film ignored the possibilities of giant-tiny sex altogether.
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RE: Hypnotizing
@littlest-lily I got halfway through this at work when I realized I would need to finish it at home.
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RE: Nalani and the Planet of the Giants
Everyone’s looking at that drop of dew, but I’m also enjoying his giant balls slapping her tiny tushie.
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RE: Rejection fuels Non con: Opinions?
@giant-me Jit expressly created this forum for M/f fans to have a place to share their darker thoughts and fantasies. Even I have to remind myself of that occasionally.
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First Among Tinies
There are number of giant dudes here who have talked about enjoying a “harem” of tiny ladies at their beck and call. I have a question for the tiny ladies: Do you prefer to have your giant all to yourself, or do you fantasize just as often about being one of several shrunken women under a giant’s control? If the latter, is there a pecking order among the tinies, a shrunken sisterhood, or is it every little gal for herself?
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RE: Giant Bane
@tiny-ivy Oh yeah. Earlier in the season they showed Dr. Psycho (a dwarf) as having mind-controlled Giganta into marrying him (not at all canon). In a subsequent episode, Poison Ivy casually inquires “how did this work…sexually” (Psycho’s reply: “Not great!”).
Note that the Giganta eps had different writers than the ep with the Giant Ivy/vore gag. That they did all this in the first season demonstrates a boldness that kink-smugglers didn’t used to have.