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Sorry, it’s impossible for me to keep a straight face when a tiny woman describes herself using any label that contains the word “top.”
[Snickers]
Sorry, it’s impossible for me to keep a straight face when a tiny woman describes herself using any label that contains the word “top.”
@littlest-lily Blurry Pepper is best Pepper! Not because she’s ugly or anything. Just because the concept is adorable.
(Seriously, there’s an untapped “blurry tinies” market.)
Personally, I like to store them using the Russian Nesting Doll (or Matryoshka) method! Put one tiny woman in your pocket. Then put an even tinier woman in in the first tiny woman’s pocket. Then put an even MORE minuscule woman in the TINIER woman’s pocket! And so on, up to infinity…
@SmolChlo Hot and cold…so, room temperature?
(I’m a terrible person.)
@SmolChlo Haha, well, I’ll just say that men are often accustomed to receiving mixed messages from women. I think most of us guys have had experiences where a woman acts warmly toward us, and possibly interested in us, only to quickly change her mind or start acting cold and uninterested a short time later. We start wondering “What did I do wrong? Maybe it’s just her…does it have anything to do with me at all?” I had a number of experiences where women were clearly telling me they were interested in me, only to become completely turned off and want nothing to do with me a short time later. To be fair, that was back when I was way too much of a people-pleasing “nice guy.” I think I made a lot of good first impressions, but then sabotaged myself with typical “nice guy” behavior. I rarely have that problem anymore.
@SmolChlo Considering the EXTREME stigma attached to men who say or do anything considered misogynistic, misogyny-adjacent, or exploitative of women, I completely understand why ninety-nine percent of men (i.e. men who aren’t psychopaths) would act gun-shy and freeze like a deer in the headlights when they encounter this situation unexpectedly. They’d probably be wondering, “Is this a trap or some kind of test? Will I be tarred as a misogynistic psychopath if I say anything positive or approving about the fantasy? Does that make me Schrodinger’s rapist?” I expect that most of those guys would feel like they need “permission” before they can say “Sure, I could possibly enjoy playing with a cute, tiny little you.” Which puts YOU, the woman, in a tough situation too, because how do you tell them “it’s okay” in a way that will actually convince them that you’re sincere?
@SmolChlo said in Luxurious Enclosures:
My dear friends of Papa’s Dollhouse, the silence was so painful and after a lengthy pause he explains that he simply enjoys building miniature structures as a hobby and nothing more. He then proceeded to nervously ask me what I was talking about and if I had a preference?? to which I replied I have a desire to be 4” tall. His face was slowly starting to turn red, leaning closer he whispered “why”
I have to say, his response makes me suspicious! Normally, I’m the type who believes you shouldn’t read too much into these things and that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. That may be the case in this particular situation. But if this is ONLY a hobby for him, why did he get so uncomfortable? Why did HIS face turn red when YOU blurted out a confession? HE didn’t have any reason to be embarrassed, presumably. It sounds like maybe this IS more than just a hobby for him and he was afraid that his secret was about to be inadvertently exposed. Like, if someone asked ME a question about size fantasy, I think I’d probably react the way this guy did. I’d probably deny that I had any interest in sizey stuff at all and play dumb while turning red and becoming very awkwardly quiet and thinking “Oh crap oh crap oh crap! I’ve given myself away! They’re going to figure it out!”
Or it’s possible that he’s just one of those sensitive people who experiences secondhand embarrassment very strongly.
But anyway…I’m not saying he’s a closeted macrophile or microphile. I’m just saying he acted the way I would expect a closeted macrophile or microphile to act. LOL.
@skysayl As a nice bonus, the US is bigger than most countries, so you’ll feel smaller. (Okay, I’m pretty sure that’s not how it works…)
I think it’s like the idea that art imitates culture, and culture also imitates art. It’s a constant feedback loop. I don’t see it as an “either/or” kind of thing…I see it as “both/and.” Art shapes people’s taste AND their taste shapes art. It’s hard to separate the two or to tell where one begins and the other ends.
@SmolChlo said in Just chillin:
I’ve also wondered why men seem to get squirrelly when you go for their butt or feet
I think the general consensus in the culture/media/etc. is that these particular male body parts are repulsive…especially feet. Foot fetishism in general tends to be frowned upon, but it seems like appreciating women’s feet aesthetically is more accepted and is considered more “normal” than appreciating men’s feet (and I think the same is true for female butts versus male butts…appreciating female butts is more accepted). It’s fairly common to see women posing barefoot in glamor photos, sexy photos, artistic photos, the list goes on. Men? Not so much. Women wear stiletto heels when they get all dressed up…men wear closed shoes. Women’s feet are on display more often, and they’re more carefully maintained and made to look pretty. (As for butts, I’ve noticed that when women’s butts are shown in movies, it’s usually portrayed as sexy. When men’s butts are shown, it’s portrayed as funny, gross, or sad.) When there are a lot of cultural messages implying that men’s feet are undesirable and should be hidden away (or simply not focused on), I think some men probably internalize those messages, which would make them more uncomfortable with receiving the kind of attention that you described.
I also feel like the whole foot thing may have acquired some “feminine” connotations. For instance, going barefoot can have the effect of making someone look more vulnerable, and vulnerability is considered feminine. Also, women seem to go barefoot or show their feet more often than men do, and that may contribute even further to the associations with femininity. When you see couples together, a lot of women put their bare feet in their boyfriend’s lap, a lot of men rub their girlfriends’ feet, and so on, but how often do you see those things happen the other way around–with the genders reversed? It seems pretty rare. So if a man has been internalizing these norms for his entire life, I can understand how he might instinctively feel like it’s “feminine” for him to have someone paying special attention to his feet in that way (in other words, treating him as if he were a woman).
That said, I’m a guy who appreciates female feet and hates male feet (including my own), so I’m not representative of all straight men. I might be right on target with my theorizing…OR I might be HORRENDOUSLY guilty of projecting my own biases, quirks, and hang-ups onto other men. Either ignore my theories or don’t. Haha.
@Olo Hehe. I guess whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing depends on what the old ways are being replaced with. Sometimes new can be better, sometimes it can be worse…depending on the situation. But I think we can all agree that–in general–posturing sucks, no matter who’s doing it.
@Nyx Unfortunately, an unearned sense of moral superiority causes lots of people to act like creeps. (Which relates back to what I said earlier about why I don’t trust most of the people currently developing AI.) I think for a large percentage of those guys, it’s a way of posturing and making themselves look superior to other men. They’re under the delusion that it makes them more manly and more attractive to women. It allows them to say, “I’m the only REAL man in the room! I’m not threatened by strong women, because I’M not a pathetic, scared little boy, unlike all these OTHER losers…” I see lots of guys act like this–not just in the F/m community or the size community–and I find it nauseating. A lot of the traditional ways for men to act macho and superior have fallen out of favor over time and have been widely labeled “toxic,” so the traditional ways are slowly being replaced by new ways.
It makes no sense to me how so many F/m people can be so personally offended by the mere existence of M/f content. I strongly dislike shrunken men content, personally–both in the mainstream media and in the size community. It just makes me feel uncomfortable, disgusted, and grossed out…it’s kind of like experiencing secondhand embarrassment. If someone asked me to kiss another man or wear a dress, I would feel repulsed by that idea, and the feelings of repulsion I get from fantasies that include tiny men are somewhat similar to that. But even so, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with OTHER people liking shrunken men content. People are free to like whatever they like, just as I’m free to dislike it…nobody needs my permission to like something. Just because it’s completely incompatible with my personal preferences doesn’t mean it shouldn’t exist. This is a concept we shouldn’t have to explain to other adults. So on one level, I can understand why they don’t like M/f content and would prefer not to see it (because that’s how I feel about F/m stuff), but still…that doesn’t excuse acting like a spoiled child, making yourself the boss of everyone, and demanding they exclusively like what you like.
Wow. The funniest part of this absurd political correctness is when the AI complains that M/f images “perpetuate the stereotype of women as weaker and smaller than men.” That’s not a stereotype…it’s observable reality!! Sure, not all women are physically smaller and weaker than all men, but not all humans have two legs either…and I’m pretty sure no one would complain about depictions of two-legged humans somehow perpetuating harmful stereotypes. So I guess we’re not allowed to notice that women are generally smaller and weaker, and if we do, then we’re misogyny-adjacent? Insane…
(Incidentally, I think it’s a bit misogynistic to assume that women being smaller and weaker is a BAD thing.)
This is why I don’t trust the people who are developing AI in general. It seems like they expect everyone to deny observable reality whenever reality doesn’t line up with the way they wish it was.
Alternative Giant Exposure Therapy Program, Optimized for Maximum Efficiency:
Step 1: Shrink her down to an inch tall, then have her walk around on the giant’s hand and on other parts of his body. If she’s tiny to a human, then she’ll be an absolutely minuscule, barely visible speck to a giant. If she can handle walking around on a giant when she’s (comparatively) dust-mite-sized, then being held by him when she’s normal-sized will be EASY by comparison! (Note: Before performing Step 1, don’t tell her she’s going to be shrunk.)
Step 2: There is no Step 2. (After Step 1, growing her back to human size is optional. )
@foreverlurk I don’t know if you’ve heard of Gab, but it’s essentially an alternative to Facebook, and what makes it unique is that it’s aggressively anti-censorship and pro-free-speech (unlike big tech in general). They’ve developed their own AI image generator called Gabby…like the Gab social network, it’s meant to be an alternative to big tech, and what makes it unique is that it’s free from censorship. I’ve never tried using it and can’t vouch for it myself, but it might be worth looking at, as a way to avoid the usual frustrations.