There’s a big emphasis on tiny or shrinking women amongst SW fans (understandably, given the S originally and still often stands for “shrunken”), but not much on giant or growing men. I like scenarios where the man is the subject of the extreme size difference or who experience the size change.

I’m such a fan of seeing a gorgeous giant of a man walking through a city, over buildings and crowds (or on top of, depending on the mood), taking over the attention and space of those beneath him. I want to see him easily hold things that, at human size, would be impossible to handle without assistance; maybe fumble a little as he works out how not to destroy it (or how best to). Enjoying the view of his enormous body, the vastness of a landscape of skin and muscle. Boys just cute you know???

Is he at his natural height or is he still growing? Is he fully clothed or totally nude? Is he gentle or is he a tyrant? An unwilling victim of some experiment or a curious god? Is it a one-on-one interaction or is it more like one-to-million? Is he self conscious or does he take pleasure in his (newfound) power? So many options.

I can go on, but I won’t. I know there’s plenty of content on sites like coiledfist, but…well, we don’t need to rehash those conversations about target audiences etc. Content creation takes time and effort, and it can get frustrating when the subject is a niche among niches. So I just want to thank you to anyone who creates or created giant men content along those lines. You and your work (s) are very much appreciated

The backstory is not necessary to read, just wanted to share here as my SW/GT outlet. You can skip to the pictures if you’d like, marked by , , , , ,
TL;DR relationship between a Borrower and human (Bean) as adults.

Been revisiting the theme of Borrowers lately, and the idea of a relationship between an adult Borrower and adult human (Bean). I got curious one day and tried to find any reference in the books about how big Borrowers were - I recall this question coming up years ago on one of the forums. I think there may be some throwaway mention, but I don’t remember and the illustrations aren’t always the most consistent points of reference. Anyway, I came across this beauty of a line in the early pages of Chapter 1 of the first book:

“But my brother said that, underneath, he thought they were frightened. It was because they were frightened, he thought, that they had grown so small. Each generation had become smaller and small, and more and more hidden.”

Does this potentially open this question up to multiple answers and theories? Oh yes, I think it does so I took up that opportunity to imagine a ~3.5-inch tall Borrower (Adelly) who has learned that to stop the effects of intergenerational shrinking, she must make regular contact with Beans. Most of these encounters have been with children, or people who are wary of offending “the fey folk”, so she’s been able to navigate through the usual dangers pretty well and avoid getting squished.

However, it also effectively means banishment from other Borrowers due to the dangers she’s believed to bring as a result of being seen. So she’s lived afield for most of her life, rarely staying in a house for more than she needs, to borrow and then move on. She doesn’t mind though given the freedom and she loves nature, especially plants.

One day she comes across a particular house with a large greenhouse and a collection of potted plants - some of which she had never seen before. Tending to them is a Bean (Phillip) who she spots sitting at a workbench, hunched over a plant with small, paper-like flowers. Curiosity draws her closer to see what he’s doing and at one point, it seems that he’s about to rip the plant out of the pot. This causes her to yelp which alerts him to her presence. As he sits up and looks over, she sees just how big he is - much bigger than any Bean she’s ever seen, let alone encountered.

Their encounter has other firsts for her: he is unshaken by her being there (having encountered Borrowers before), he initiates the conversation (though he doesn’t speak much), he saves her from falling off the workbench (making contact), and she finds him to be VERY attractive, albeit extremely large (a point of fascination which may develop into something more).
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Once Adelly starts talking about the plants, it’s hard to get her to stop. Since Phillip made the flora guides available for her to peruse, she’s been keen to share what new thing she’s learned about the different varieties and species. It was endearing really, even if he did have to carry her around so she could finish her speech.

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Adelly seeks Phillip out to ask if she needs to bring anything for their outing to the village. She stops mid-sentence as she realises that she’s caught him at an (in)opportune time, changing out of his soiled shirt. He doesn’t seem bothered by her seeing him half-naked, nor does he seem to mind as he teases her about easing off her “new rouge” (honestly, I just wanted an excuse to draw a guy’s back).

Not sure if a post like this exists already, so apologies if something similar has been shared:

Anybody keen to share their resource(s) to assist in content creation? Or even just to help visualise for your own imagination?

I’m a fan of the 3-4 inch range for tinies (or 1:18-20 ratio equivalent if my maths is correct), but I find that it’s not a particularly common one when it comes to finding visual references for this, at least relative to say 5-6 inches (1:12-15) and even ≥1 inch. Reading this, it sounds so negligible but in a community of size fans, a difference of inch(es) really can be a big deal (hohohoho).

Additionally, I am a fan of consistency with respect to maintaining proportions between a giant and tiny. I don’t mean purposeful shrinking/growing over the course of a narrative; I refer to the inconsistent portrayal of a subject’s size to what’s been established, e.g. a 2-inch character, normally being the size of a thumb in some scenes, suddenly being the size of an entire hand in others. Old media is particularly notorious for this, but the occasional contemporary stuff (mostly mainstream) will do this as well, and I’m sure for various practical reasons.

Anyway, I was introduced to the easypose app a couple of years ago, and ever since I’ve been able to better visualise different scales - approximations only since it requires a lot of manual changing using anatomical proportions that aren’t strictly realistic, but are close enough to address the gaps. It’s an artist’s pose app with the option to change the scale of the model (partially or completely) as well as the camera angles, field of views, etc. And I was so rapt that the scaling option wasn’t as restricted as I initially thought. It’s limited in other ways, but it’s been very accessible and relatively easy to use (as someone who is not particularly savvy with 3D models and renders). So if ever I need just a visual reminder or reference of a finger-sized woman, it’s my go-to resource for drawing, writing or just scenes in my head.

Here are some screenshots as a sample of some dabbling (apologies if they come up oddly, I had some issues uploading while on my phone and it’s late and I’m very sleepy):

The initial confusion and disbelief in finding a tiny person and/or the shock and horror of looking up at the face of a giant will never not be

Lately I’ve been playing with a scenario that’s a take on the size trope of “tiny becomes the giant”: usually a fairy or a victim of shrinking becomes the giant later in the story and the power dynamic is switched.

It isn’t a revenge story, as they often are (though I do love a good city rampage if it progresses so). Rather, and without going into too much detail, the lady goes out of her way to help him return to normal, they succeed, and it’s revealed that he’s much MUCH larger than expected. It also presents an opportunity for him to return her kindness in all sorts of fluffy and/or spicy ways.

I’ve mentioned before that the older I get, the more my tastes change. This is one of those changes. Anybody else into this trope?

A sneaky drawing last night following a steamy scenario sharing with a friend. Can’t resist a cheeky butt wriggle even when you’re working your whole body

I know this one! AND it’s on the list under Tiny People, at #52: Céu, “Cangote". Considering the age of the video, it’s held up pretty well I think. Still super cute.

@littlest-lily playing the new Zelda, I’m reminded that I had such a crush on (adult) Link. He’s like the perfect mix of goofball and badass - a great mix for a giant, I think.

On the original question, I also prefer original characters, but I have played with the idea of characters mostly from video games (since it’s the most regular media I interact with). Namely, Alexios from Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey, and Arthur Morgan from Read Dead Redemption 2.

I find love triangles really frustrating (not in a good way), but if I had to pick a typical classic triangle dynamic, it would also be two giants fighting over one lady. And if chaos ensues, have at it.

Otherwise, I’ve been appreciating scenarios where all three are enjoying each other’s company. It may be a part of me where I like to see everyone get along, but I like imagining a tiny lady getting smooshed and pleasured as she’s caught between the huge powerful bodies of two hot fellas.

So I’ve been playing Baldur’s Gate 3 (I’m addicted, it’s a problem) and, unsurprisingly, been inspired by all sorts of D&D related size fantasies. I’ve been reacquainted with my love for giants in armour. More recently, and specifically, paladins or guardian/sentinel types.

Like, I’m already a fan of giants who are capable of immense destruction, but also great gentleness. So it’s fitting to fantasise about a big, handsome man in beautifully crafted armour, striding down through the narrow streets of some town or city; helping those in need while doling out justice indiscriminately to those who do harm. He is careful, mindful that each step creates tremors strong enough to shake the tiny citizens and their buildings (the extent of this depends on his size). Some narrower streets can’t accommodate the width of even one leg, so he sticks to the main road. Maybe he’s stationed at the city walls, watching from a distance and intervening as necessary. His size alone is enough to intimidate anyone to submission, but he doesn’t shy away from using his fist or boot on bolder types who like to test him.

I think the fun part of his character is that justice isn’t always kind or merciful; often driven by the laws, or the code of his patron, maybe his own if he’s aggrieved by the formers. Because despite paladins having a reputation of being virtuous do-gooders, he acts with impunity, to judge crimes as he sees fit against his code - all for the greater good. Say, if I’m up for a more destructive scenarios, he can try to be careful where he walks, but it’s difficult to avoid things that barely or don’t reach his ankle. But it’s a manageable consequence of keeping the citizens safe. Idealism and dogma can be really unsettling - more so when the person is a colossal juggernaut. They’re scary! And do I love me some fear and tension in my fantasies? I sure do!

Importantly, he is not above vengeance. One scenario I like to play with involves him saving his little love from a corrupt official or government that hides behind a private army, and those who get in his way face his wrath. He saves her, of course, but does she watch on in horror from the safefy of his palm or shoulder as he continues to mete out his rightous fury? Maybe - that depends on my mood - she couldn’t stop him anyway, not without some effort at least. By then, he’s razed a good portion the city to the ground, the antagonist’s armies are down to the last few soldiers who have survived or haven’t managed to run away. He won’t stop until the antagonist is judged accordingly.

I could go on, but those are the main points I think. My thoughts are a bit everywhere, but I just wanted to share and get it off my chest. It’s been such a turn on, let me tell you. I vaguely remember a story I read a while ago on the VSW Forum involving an armoured giant, but it has been a while and I wasn’t so into destruction then as I am now. I could do with more anyway

Other inspirations (from video games because that’s how I roll) have been the Tower Knight boss from Demon Souls, and Ornstein from Dark Souls (when he is powered up by absorbing his partner, cutscene at 1:10). But they could be bigger.

@i-am-insane said:

Hmm. Unless the equivalent is actually huge, bulging muscles or something? Big arms broad shoulders?

Not necessarily. This parallels discussions around superhero bodies and male power fantasies: portrayals of muscular men often don’t aim to appeal to women so much as to other men. But of course, it’s more nuanced than “men like muscles, women don’t”. I think because a lot of social conditioning around sex centres men and male pleasure so heavily, you may be hard pressed to find a direct equivalent to a lot of fantasy tropes (often leading to false equivalencies) without a lot of de-centering first. It’s complicated and I appreciate the effort you’re putting in to understand!

Personally, I love my giants to be broad-shouldered and sculpted like a statue, but it’s not necessary. I’d like for him to be attractive, but the specifics of his looks comes secondary to his personality, actions, intentions and the overall story. It’s a feature, not the main event. As @littlest-lily says,

the kink is around the fact that he’s much, much bigger. And then at that point I care more about what he does than what he looks like.

@Olo said:

I don’t think I’ve ever read a Size story that dealt with menstruating tinies.

I don’t think I’ve read one either. Not many stories in general tend to unless it’s young adult stuff, but tbf I am not an avid book reader. I do remember Tamora Pierce characters having to manage their periods when training for knighthood.

I’d be interested in people’s takes on how menstruation is experienced and managed for tiny/shrinking scenarios. Would make for some good lore/world building. Some broad thoughts to stay on topic:

1. Business as usual: bleeding as normal (or to the usual flow of the tiny) and is something to just deal with. Rags and other absorbent materials are probably pretty accessible and, depending, can be disposed of or washed. PMS symptoms are experienced the same way. They have to be careful of where they are at a particular point in time, at the risk of attracting unwanted beasties (piggybacking on the bear myth here a bit, but there are plenty of other things to worry about when you’re the size of a doll). This could be a problem for a tiny who’s periods are particularly painful or debilitating.
2. Shrinking is physiologically disruptive: Happens but the shrinking process changes the flow for whatever reason put forth, for better or worse, e.g. the tiny used to be able to keep track of their flow, now they can’t; they experience spotting for the first few months until their body equalises with their new size; they experience PMS symptoms to a different extent - less or more pain, lighter or heavier bleeding, different symptoms entirely, etc.
3. Nothing at all: menstruation is uncommon or ceases entirely. This might be brought on by different pressures, including the tiny exerting greater physical activity due to their small size, or a lack of accessible nutrition. For non-humans, maybe they just don’t have it at all, or very limited (like a couple times a year).

@littlest-lily and @Nyx have pretty well covered what I’d like to see in M/f stories. Thank you both for your thoughts

I’m someone who enjoys character-driven stories, so I like knowing character backgrounds, their thoughts, their feelings, their issues, and how they navigate their relationships (friends, family, romance, etc.) and the world around them. In particular, the tiny is who I sympathise with the most as the fictional representative of my fantasy, so I want to know what goes on inside her head.

Content wise, I am primarily a gentle fan. I am a huge romantic and love a good sweet, lovey-dovey story. I prefer giant or growth scenarios, but still enjoy SW content - usually they are already tiny, like fairies or Borrowers; it will always be my first love. To me, being small represents a powerlessness against the world, rather than a pathway to submission or relinquishing personhood to become an object. I like tinies with (and who retain) autonomy, and are able to look after themselves (or they learn to). There are some things they just cannot achieve in their diminutive state and it can break them, because I am still a sucker for suffering.

For giants, as I’ve shared in a previous post, they are are capable of immense destruction, but also great gentleness; they’ll frighten you to submission, but will hold you against their big, broad chests afterwards for a cuddle. For literal giants, I also enjoy rampage or kaiju style scenarios with emphasis on domination or demonstrating their power, rather than details on gore or death.

For both GT or SW scenarios, fearplay all the way. And are the guys hot? You bet your ass they are.

Full disclosure, I haven’t listened to the podcast yet.

@foreverlurk got me curious to look up research and published work on macrophilia, because, yeah, that sounds really outdated and unsubstantiated. I mean, it might be true for some people, but I think it’s, at best, an extremely uninformed conclusion.

Professor Mark Griffiths posted a decent blog piece on macrophilia in 2012. It already seems a hell of a lot of insightful into the psychology of extreme size differences. Note his comment on Friedman’s comments:

"However, most online accounts by macrophiles that I have read online, don’t seem to match the psychological profile put forward by Dr. Friedman. "

I know that we, as fans, have enough insight to dismiss her comments (as you have), but perhaps it’s some consolation to see an informed observation coming from the outside.

I’d love to see the results of a survey/study on size fetishes/fascinations more broadly - the few papers I’ve skimmed so far focus on a single person and treats it like a mental illness, which is neither particularly representative or very encouraging. I’ve mentioned before that even a demographics survey would be cool (someone did one a while ago that did the rounds for a few months).

TL;DR Dr Friedman’s comments are, at best, questionable speculation on the roots of macrophilia/size fetishes.

@foreverlurk said in:

I’d be down for a SFW group, Discord server, or sub-board, where we can somehow verify the age of participants, and have a space to chat between adults.

Seconding this. Whatever is easy to maintain.

Having been on SFW and NSFW boards as a minor into adulthood, I can appreciate having a space that is dedicated to sharing or discussing SFW content with the flexibility of discussing more mature topics.

I don’t want to infantalise young people who are coming to terms with being more sexually active and they should be free to safely explore that - I’d be a hypocrite to deny that as someone having been fortunate enough to be shown mostly patience and guidance along the way. But it’s the interaction between adults and minors that can be difficult to navigate. I’m sure I and fellow young’ns at the time on the Min’s forum made the adults pretty uncomfortable just by being present, so I simply did not engage with sexual content (which was fine because I wasn’t into it at the time). And now that I’m on the other side of that, I’m wary too.

In any case, happy to support this!

@foreverlurk happily!

@foreverlurk it is a cool 18 degrees C here and I am FUCKING SWEATING. I love these! Thank you! God they’re so dashing…and so gentle (mostly)

It’s a tough choice between Gale and Halsin for me. I crushed on the both of them SO HARD, for different reasons. I wish Halsin had more depth (I’d happily swap out the whole bear…thing ), but he makes up very well with that mellow voice and that body. God help me when they updated some dialogue and the kissing animation, fuck

More importantly, both can have their own different GT/SW scenarios!

This comic distracted me for DAYS. God, it’s done so well. I wasn’t a big fan of Astarion before, but this made me ease up on him and give him a chance (I know the comic isn’t canon, but that dialogue 🤌)

@tiny-ivy awww Gale is my favourite charming soft boy he’d make a wonderful giant (to an SW or literal, I have also explored this).

I think Aylin’s character helped solidify my thoughts on the range and flexibility of paladin characters: she’s very proud, charismatic (glorious, even) and driven by a strong sense of justice, but she’s also intense, horrifyingly violent and has the absolute audacity 24/7. I wouldn’t quite want that for my main giant, but they would make for some great tension!