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@littlest-lily As someone who is desperately trying to reduce the amount of time he spends online, it was ironic to find myself during the first part of this chapter saying, “Evie needs the Internet.”

Both Evie and Aiden seem remarkably emotionally mature for their age(s). It’s both appropriate and adorable that Evie is the first to indulge in fantasizing about what a life together would be like. I’m struck that she already seems to have, if not abandoned, at least deferred the hope of getting restored to normal size.

Both of them need to acknowledge that Evie’s dependency on Aiden is a real obstacle to their relationship. I think it’s most analagous to her having suffered a disability. Some couples can accommodate that, some cannot.

So, an exchange in the Unfortunate Alice thread prompted me to think more about a question about perspectives in size fantasy that I’ve been wrestling with for a while now. How much do you really want to know about your fantasy object?

If you identify as a tiny woman in a M/f scenario, do want to know what’s going on in the big guy’s head, do you want to project your own preferences onto him, or do you want him to remain mysterious and overwhelming? I know what I like as a size fantasist, but as a size writer I often wonder which perspectives and how much depth I should include.

I don’t think there’s much question that the majority of size fantasists primarily identify as tiny, with the consequence that the “classic” size fantasy story is written from the tiny’s perspective. In such stories, the giant characters are generally free to pursue their own agendas without having to explain or justify them, and the drama comes from the tiny characters having to anticipate and adapt to those agendas. Mysterious or arbitrary giants therefore often make good plot devices.

Size fantasy has become more sophisticated since we all found each other and started creating for people other than ourselves. We have begun to think about not only what we want to see but also how we want to be seen, about who else has found their way to size fantasy and what they want to see. “Classic” relationships can be inverted, trying on different perspectives or just mixing things up and seeing what happens.

I’m just curious as to what everyone’s tastes are as far as this goes. Sometimes I prefer a refreshing change of perspective, but often I just need my itches scratched, and long stories with complex characters and plots can divert from that. I still maintain that real characters make for hot smut, but I don’t always have a good feel for when to just lean into the tropes we all know and love.

For example, my story series Taken is written from the perspective of Gordon, a man compelled to shrink women and take them for his pleasure. The narrative is deeply embedded in his own desires and anxieties, and he is often a comic or a tragic figure. I wrote it this way partly because I wanted to subvert the stereotype of the mysterious and confident giant, partly because I was trying to stretch my literary legs, but mostly because I wanted to explore what kind of man would kidnap, rape, and devour women and how he would think of himself. If you’re a tiny woman who gets off on reading about such a man, do you want to know what’s going on in his head or do you just want to see him get down to business?

There is no “bad” answer here; all opinions and preferences are valid.

@Mrgoblinging7 I have complicated thoughts and feelings about this. My formative years occurred before the Internet, so I thought I was the only size perv on the planet. Mainstream size content was all I had. I developed a keen sense for determining what sort of TV shows, movies, books, and comics might feature size content, and how likely such content might contain risqué hints. The best you could realistically hope for was a lingering handheld, a little unaware contact, or some lewd innuendo. Since no one acknowledged size as a fetish, any such scenario would most likely occur in a humorous or horrific context. Cartoons in adult magazines were the best bet, but even there it was very slim pickings.

The other aspect of being reliant on mainstream size content was knowing that if a given TV show or comic series ever did feature a size scenario, it would almost certainly be the last time it did, because the normies would become bored if the show kept returning to the size well. This made those rare size episodes even more fraught, as I knew this was the only chance I might ever get to see, say, a tiny Mork in the same frame with a normal-sized Mindy or a shrunken Diana Rigg crawling about on a giant desktop. Children’s shows were more frequent in their use of size themes because they didn’t expect their audiences either to remember the last time or to care if they repeated themselves, but they were also much less likely to even hint at sizey sexytimes.

In recent decades, however, the Internet has revealed us size pervs to each other and, so-very-slightly, to popular culture. There’s also simply more entertainment content out there (including previously-inaccessible foreign sources), and size content has increased commensurately. There are therefore many more opportunities to encounter mainstream size content, and just as many opportunities for it to be more embarrassing than arousing.

Perhaps because I “imprinted” on mainstream size content, I am still often satisfied when a size encounter keeps the sexual possibilities as subtext. As the volume of size content grows and special effects become cheaper, there will always be opportunities for lascivious leering, indecent proposals, and inappropriate handling. It’s a fine line for mainstream content producers to walk, and I share the Goblin King’s worry that explicit sizey sexytimes can come across as mockery.

The Boys surprised me with Termite. They retconned his character to include a throwaway sight gag from the first season opener, and I was certain that the big splash he made in the third season opener would be the last we would see of him. That they brought him back for “Herogasm” made me worry that either a) mainstream fans would (justly) complain that the show was running out of ideas or b) they were making fun of size pervs. Fortunately, his appearance was just decorative and didn’t derail the plot.

This was also a worry with Downsizing. An R-rated movie from a director with a history of shooting comical nude scenes had the potential to be either miraculous or catastrophic in its presentation of size sexytimes. An early draft of the screenplay had a brief sex scene between different-size characters, mostly off-screen but leaving no doubt about what was happening. I suppose we should be grateful that the finished film ignored the possibilities of giant-tiny sex altogether.

The Captive by Mikester65

@littlest-lily Handling without warning or obtaining permission is another big step, probably moreso for Aiden than for Evie.

Watching tinies navigate and manipulate their environment is endlessly fascinating to me. It’s my favorite distraction. All of my little lovelies have to overcome their self-consciousness fairly quickly.

Aiden’s repeated proposals to take Evie outside confirms to me that he’s suffering from separation anxiety as much as Evie has been.

Christmas decorations? Slow down, buddy.

@hentaihunter1 said in Perspectives:

I don’t really have any giant stories, I just don’t know what else to call them. Cagers? Reducers? Did I miss the slang memo for this?

I’ve never seen slang or a tag for this, but I’d nominate “Collectors.”

I don’t think I have any personally written stories that switch between shrunken and Giant though, maybe I should.

I didn’t want to imply that all stories could be divided into “giant’s perspective” and “tiny’s perspective;” there are endless variations and configurations. When it comes to smut, it generally helps to have someone’s perspective in order to show their sensations and emotions and thoughts. However, I’ve read successful (that is, arousing) stories that were just straight-up third-person reporting of events that didn’t get into anyone’s heads.

Of course, it’s always more difficult to write from the perspective of a different gender, orientation, or kink than your own, but that’s not a reason not to try. As always, the solution is to encourage greater diversity in both writers and readers.

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Belastungsprobe by Pipifax (aka Max Liebermann)

@littlest-lily said in Out of their Element:

“I… I just want to play with you more,”

That’s Aiden’s line.

@giant-me Jit expressly created this forum for M/f fans to have a place to share their darker thoughts and fantasies. Even I have to remind myself of that occasionally.

@tiny-ivy Oh yeah. Earlier in the season they showed Dr. Psycho (a dwarf) as having mind-controlled Giganta into marrying him (not at all canon). In a subsequent episode, Poison Ivy casually inquires “how did this work…sexually” (Psycho’s reply: “Not great!”).

Note that the Giganta eps had different writers than the ep with the Giant Ivy/vore gag. That they did all this in the first season demonstrates a boldness that kink-smugglers didn’t used to have.

by Sinnamom

@littlest-lily Aiden could clearly benefit from taking a class or two (probably online) about caring for disabled people. They emphasize that preserving dignity applies to the caregiver, as well. People can tell when someone is walking on eggshells around them, and they generally don’t like it.

There are number of giant dudes here who have talked about enjoying a “harem” of tiny ladies at their beck and call. I have a question for the tiny ladies: Do you prefer to have your giant all to yourself, or do you fantasize just as often about being one of several shrunken women under a giant’s control? If the latter, is there a pecking order among the tinies, a shrunken sisterhood, or is it every little gal for herself?

So, I was checking Wikipedia to see if the release dates for certain TV series had been updated, and I spotted the following on the page for Gen V:

• Lizze Broadway as Emma Meyer, a YouTuber that can shrink to 5 inches.

Vexingly, I couldn’t find any citation for an external source that would confirm the shrinking aspect of this character. Ms. Broadway’s pinned tweet features a still from the series trailer depicting a blood-drenched Emma looking up. Note that in the brief shot from the trailer at the top of this thread depicts a shrunken woman much smaller than 5 inches.

Further bulletins as events warrant.