(yeah, no idea what to title this, lol)
So I was looking around tumblr and I saw this.
Specficlly, this:

And, honestly? This feels like a gentle (if chaotic) GT/sw kind of mood.

GT: ‘Look at this little thing! It’s so smol! Smol and CUTE!’
sw: existential terror and confusion, mixed with futile attempts to escape from hands bigger than her entire body
GT: ‘pspspspspsps’
sw: ???

I’m now envisioning a sort of SW Steve Irwin, who (either as a giant visiting human towns, or a human visiting tiny/fairy towns/colonies/whatever) roams about, finding women, investigating them (look at this purse! Clearly it was made using the skin a vole, a frequent predator of the tiny woman population! Truly a marvel!) (rather politely for a someone abducting them) while being totally delighted, then letting them go.

The stories of this man. The myth. The Legend.

(Honestly, I find both versions hilarious; not!Steve Irwin as this advocate for protecting tiny women and their habitats just works, but I also love the idea of just… this giant. Only one giant. And he just rolls up, does this, explains nothing, and leaves.)

@Nyx
One of my older ideas is a princess and her long-suffering knight. Maybe there’s some romantic tension, but mostly it’s him going, ‘Yes, your highness’ while he follows her around and whatnot, with some teasing on her end.

Portal pops up, knight is all valiant, maybe some kind of bloodline… and the princess and the knight come out the other end, nowhere they’ve ever heard of, or any idea how to figure out where they are compared to where they used to live…

And Sir Knight is now sixty feet tall. And naked, because clothes don’t really fit after massive growth spirts.

The princess promptly starts ordering him around like normal, and when they find native cities, tell him to conquer them in her name. If she can’t have her old empire, she’ll just make a new one! His response?

"Yes, your highness.’

Seriously, don’t stress over updating the site; for us, just having one is a luxury. Get your stuff sorted in your own time and worry about this later.

I’ve always been fond of the ‘paint the SW like she’s a model figure’ dynamic.

(It occurs to me that a bunch of people who don’t consume anime/manga might not know what yandere is… (oops on that last topic with it), so for a brief explanation: a yandere is a deeply possessive person who is ‘in love’ with someone, to the point of obsession, where they will actively do things to ruin their love interests life, isolate them from friends/family, kill off love interest, try to take away their independence by both physical, financial, and psychological means (lots and lots of gas lighting), all in the name of keeping the love interest theirs and only theirs. While the term itself is japanese, the idea clearly applies to stalkers seen in horror movies and crime dramas you’d see anywhere.)

Something I’ve realized is that yandere is a concept that is built of similar dynamics to size content: it’s about obtaining control over another person, by either gaining more power directly or, more often, taking away their power, thus leaving them either dependant on you or unable to resist you in a meaningful way. For obvious reasons, then, this is something that comes up with GTS, and to a lesser extent, GTs. But i’ve been wondering; how would a yandere sw work?

To a certain extent, for a GT/f relationship, the normal sized person is actually going to have some soft power over the bigger one because, no matter what most GTS stories seem to think, turning giant isn’t a magic ‘I Win’ button. Even assuming the military just doesn’t blow their ass up with some missiles if they go on a rampage, either because they’re accepted for some reason, or they have something else to explain why the military can’t pose a reasonable threat… society isn’t made for a giant person, and we are deeply dependant on society for a lot of things.

There’s no clothes, obviously, but there’s also no food, no shelter, no good place to use the bathroom… and while those, also, can be explained by a magical kind of biology… what about TV? Cell phones? A soft bed? All those modern luxuries we’ve all grown to enjoy? There’s a whole world of modern civilization that a giant can’t really access… but a normal person could. That’s something to hold over them, and considering how stuff like email and social media works and how a giant couldn’t even use a keyboard, easily control what they’d learn about.

Beyond that, I’ve been rolling around the idea of a rich normal person patroning a giant, and her wealth being the only reason they have, like, a bed. And good food. And clothes. And that being a sort of de facto tool to keep the giant under their control, because where else are you going to get underwear for the seventy foot man? Not from your old, normal ex, that’s for sure!

But it’s different with SW, because the ‘giant’ here is the normal one; they are the ones with control over the tools of civilization, they are the one with the technological and financial advantages.

I mean, you could jokingly do it with the guy just kind of ignoring their crazy because of how little (ha) he thinks of her, letting her hump his leg or finger whenever she gets in the mood and not really reacting to it, and just kind of flicking them away when they’re annoying, but that seems… a waste of the idea. Unless you make the SW the breadwinner/rich person (which is possible), I think the only way to do it is emotional manipulation. An sw constantly preying on their giant’s emotions; stuff like, ‘I’m afraid, don’t leave me alone!’, or, ‘don’t be so cruel to me’, ‘you can’t abandon me like this’, or maybe even, ‘you did this to me, so you need to take care of me now’, probably mixed with some hard-core seduction.

It’d be entirely dependant, in other words, on the guy putting up with the abusive tendencies, where in any other format there’s an actual danger the woman can pose, or threat they can use, to back up their crazy.

Any thoughts on this, or ideas?

There’s an idea I’ve been thinking with recently: abandonment play. Or maybe flat out abandonment.

A focus that’s not the giant trying to train the SW, but the SW trying to get the giant’s focus at all.

Main example I’m picturing is shrinking a group of cheerleaders and leaving them in a aquarium tank. Just the tank. No food. No water. No furniture. Nothing. Just them and a wide expanse of glass. The thing is, things can be added… if they can attract attention to be given those things. Moreover, everything that’s added disappears at the end of the day.

So, not even to stay comfortable but to survive, they need their captor’s attention, every single day. No matter how little they like it, even if he just plays with them at least they end up with food. Worst yet, the more they do something, the more used to it, and thus less interested, he gets, and the more they have to escalate…

So, I’ve been pondering some story ideas for awhile, but I’ve realized I don’t understand something on a fundamental level, something that’s holding me back from lighter content: ladies, why do you want to be shrunk?

It’s just I need to understand a character’s major motivations to write them well, and I don’t get that. I get it as, like, a means to an end: hot person wants you to shrink (which I get intellectually but only see it in SM content, and don’t get the pull of doing it for a man, though I can get the logic), or it’s to save your life, or your family, or maybe you want to be partake in the never ending orgy of being part of in the lonely and somewhat bored shrunken harem of a giant big enough and with enough other bodies to easily lose track of you in the crowd (which is something I’m exploring in a few different flavors).

I can figure out how a SW might use being an SW, and maybe even enjoy parts of it (a cupcake big enough to sleep on!), but so much of my SW logic process revolves around a fight for control against the reality of the situation: use the Big for protection from the world. Make the Big like you so they don’t abandon you. Make the Big want you so they don’t hurt you. Bully a smaller SW so you feel big for awhile.

All of that tracks. But clearly, there’s an element of pleasure to it, something that makes people go, ‘I’m fine giving up my ability to actively do what I want, and instead give my life and death into the hands and involuntary movements of someone else’, or even just ‘all of that happened to me and it’s actually super hot!’

What am I missing?

Honestly? For awhile, at least, I’d install myself as a evil thing to appease/protector/patron god, get a system set up where tithes (including, of course, women) are sent to me on a regular basis, my basic needs are met (a home of some sort, furniture, whatever food I’d need, if I needed food) and just… chill. Have fun with shit; have the women read to me, dance for me, whatever.

Stomp an enemy army if it rolls around, have fun toying with any knights that get ideas, tame a dragon or something…

I’m pretty low key, and actually ruling something sounds like a pain in the ass. As long as I get mine, I’d be good.

If I had to choose one size, it’d be… somewhere between three to six inches, ish. Small enough that they can’t really interact with anything, while big enough to interact with.

That said, what I like can depend on my mood, the day, and what I’m looking for; there’s a certain level of cuddle based softness that can only come when you aren’t in danger of accidentally obliterating your partner by existing, but there’s plenty of times I want that to be the case, or to be a landscape for them to be trapped on. Hell, even a proper half sized has its perks, with a SW struggling to live a normal life, and often failing…

Honestly, I have to guess that a lot of size vore content is just… vore content, taking the most logical approach to eating a person: making them bite sized.

On vore? Because it’s very… primal. It’s predatory behavior, tying in well with how size fetish in general, and it’s a way to dominate someone and dehumanize them in a fundamental level, reducing them into food. When you eat someone, you take them, in their entirety, and you never will be separate again. Also, presumably, they’d taste good, and all that fun stuff involved in actual eating.

Mouth play has a lot of similar appeals, but non-lethal, obviously. It also allows you to combine pleasure and fear.

Insertion isn’t really my thing, but it’s probably similar to normal vore, but just… more of a focus on dicks and the sensation than eating.

When it comes to holding a woman, I prefer enough size that I can feel her, and I don’t have to worry about squashing her if I squeeze a little.

When it comes to a woman exploring me, however, I prefer that to be a bit more literal. Micro/macro, woman walking on a chest that isn’t just big, it’s enormous. Bigger than a house, bigger than a city, a living country in it’s own right.

I want to be so overwhelmingly more that I cease to be understandable and become an alien landscape.

Looks like Little Nightmares reskinned as Grounded.

@tiny-ivy said in Why do you want to be shrunk?:

but in the wider sense. I’m just wondering aloud why M/f seems like the rarest macro pairing out there.

Oh, that’s easy: because it’s not only the closest to ‘real’, and so not really a fetish as much, the dynamic, of a man overpowering a woman, is becoming more and more frowned upon, societally. Even beyond admitting a flat out fetish, at this point I’d never want to admit this to anyone because, publicly at least, no one wants this. Popular media is set to churn out the opposite, if anything. And so anyone with it is incentivized to hide it.

@Olo
I’d think it’d be more the other way around, if anything: a lot of size stories I see with giants of any kind have them take them being big and better as a natural state of affairs; that the overwhelming arrogance and confidence seems to make it better.

@TakoAlice8

Huh. That’s the second time someone’s linked shrinking with safety. I’m not sure what to think of that, but there’s definitely something there. And you want to explore things while small? Interesting.

@tiny-ivy

So, I think you’re saying the main reason that more women aren’t macrophiliacs is, ultimatly, because… they aren’t imagining a giant man, and instead just picture a tall guy or something? Huh.

…There’s a story idea there, I think. Beyond that, not vampires, but I’m pretty sure a lot of werewolve style stories have big, looming guys, so there is that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud8SlwXlByA

She’s made more than this, btw, and half the reason I’m posting this here is that this is, unironically, the only SW/GT ASMR I’ve ever seen, so I’m hoping to boost views and get more of them made.

GTS all over the place, of course.

@foreverlurk

Intellectually, I think I get it, it’s just… well. I’m a white guy in the US who is trying to actively pay attention to things; at this point I’ve spent a significant portion of my life actively questioning my desires, the morality of them, and what women actually like, and so on; I’ve spent a lot of time struggling with the puritain style programing in almost all media I consume.

Like. Shit is stressful these days, and a lot of people want to be taken away from having to be concerned about things. A vacation from their lives… like if they’re kept in a well provided hamster cage.

Power is hot. That is a universal thing. Competency and the like, women in well pressed suits or whatever, all follow from that. The thing is I’ve realized is that there seems to be two kinds of it: ‘I want that power, because that is hot’, or ‘I want to fuck that power, because it’s hot’. Where you fall in that spectrum, and in what situations, comes down to your specific desires, I think ( I think a woman who can take charge and run a corporation or group or what not with an iron fist is pretty hot, but I want to be the one who steps on a city, I don’t want anyone else to. I want actual physical power over others, but I don’t desire control over others as much, and perfectly happy being told what to do, within reason, and especially if it’s a hot women doing it. There’s all sorts of flavors to this.)

Like, hell. A couple of days ago I was talking to someone on discord and after I said I always wanted to be the giant monster, she said she wanted to be with the giant monster. Monster fucking, honestly, is basically a step below wanting to be fucked by a giant in a lot of ways, because it features that same kind of power disparity, that you can dominate someone so completely without any props or advantages needed.

So, I know there are women who like this, in all sorts of ways, but there’s so many messages telling me otherwise I thought it would be nice to get it reinforced by actual women that, yes, they actually do like this shit, you know? Beyond that, awhile ago I posted my story on the SW section of GTS world (before I lost my account there, like, three different times, so I think my name on that site is literally ‘i’ now, which is one of the main reasons I never updated there), but someone commented that it felt weird that the SW did a thing, fucked and dominated the smaller SWs, while in my head that made perfect sense because she was trying to feel, even for a moment, like she was in control, and being able to push them around and toy with them made her feel strong. But like. Does that actually make sense??? The doubt really kicks in sometimes.

Side note, but I’m pretty sure Stockholm syndrome was disproved, because the robbers were relatively normal people, and the police were such assholes the people ‘afflicted’ just didn’t want to help them.

@littlest-lily
…Both, actually.

I not looking for a specific thing, per say, I’m looking for a bunch of realistic examples I can use as a base to work with. More than that, I know enough to guess that using porn as a, ‘this is totally how people actually think’ logic is… kinda dumb, especially since I know a lot of porn is made to appeal to men, so I want to ask actual women who actually like this, because while I want what I write to appeal to myself, a man, it doesn’t mean I don’t care if they’re realistic, either.

Example being, the story I’m ruminating on has a man accidental shrink his girlfriend, there’s some big looming that happens at first (BIG looming, she’s micro), he saves her from a thing, unshrinks her… only partially at first, and kind plays with her for awhile, before completely unshrinking her.

Next day, she wants to go again. And from my perspective, I find that hot, I get why he’d like that, etc, but why does she like that? Does she like him having so much power? Does she like losing power? (which, low key, I knew was a thing but until the confirmation in this thread I was doubting myself on.) Is it the gimmick in the story that makes her so interested?

Because the point is she’s just as into it as he is, and I don’t want to project my desires.