(yeah, no idea what to title this, lol)
So I was looking around tumblr and I saw this.
Specficlly, this:

And, honestly? This feels like a gentle (if chaotic) GT/sw kind of mood.

GT: ‘Look at this little thing! It’s so smol! Smol and CUTE!’
sw: existential terror and confusion, mixed with futile attempts to escape from hands bigger than her entire body
GT: ‘pspspspspsps’
sw: ???

I’m now envisioning a sort of SW Steve Irwin, who (either as a giant visiting human towns, or a human visiting tiny/fairy towns/colonies/whatever) roams about, finding women, investigating them (look at this purse! Clearly it was made using the skin a vole, a frequent predator of the tiny woman population! Truly a marvel!) (rather politely for a someone abducting them) while being totally delighted, then letting them go.

The stories of this man. The myth. The Legend.

(Honestly, I find both versions hilarious; not!Steve Irwin as this advocate for protecting tiny women and their habitats just works, but I also love the idea of just… this giant. Only one giant. And he just rolls up, does this, explains nothing, and leaves.)

@Nyx
One of my older ideas is a princess and her long-suffering knight. Maybe there’s some romantic tension, but mostly it’s him going, ‘Yes, your highness’ while he follows her around and whatnot, with some teasing on her end.

Portal pops up, knight is all valiant, maybe some kind of bloodline… and the princess and the knight come out the other end, nowhere they’ve ever heard of, or any idea how to figure out where they are compared to where they used to live…

And Sir Knight is now sixty feet tall. And naked, because clothes don’t really fit after massive growth spirts.

The princess promptly starts ordering him around like normal, and when they find native cities, tell him to conquer them in her name. If she can’t have her old empire, she’ll just make a new one! His response?

"Yes, your highness.’

Seriously, don’t stress over updating the site; for us, just having one is a luxury. Get your stuff sorted in your own time and worry about this later.

I’ve always been fond of the ‘paint the SW like she’s a model figure’ dynamic.

(It occurs to me that a bunch of people who don’t consume anime/manga might not know what yandere is… (oops on that last topic with it), so for a brief explanation: a yandere is a deeply possessive person who is ‘in love’ with someone, to the point of obsession, where they will actively do things to ruin their love interests life, isolate them from friends/family, kill off love interest, try to take away their independence by both physical, financial, and psychological means (lots and lots of gas lighting), all in the name of keeping the love interest theirs and only theirs. While the term itself is japanese, the idea clearly applies to stalkers seen in horror movies and crime dramas you’d see anywhere.)

Something I’ve realized is that yandere is a concept that is built of similar dynamics to size content: it’s about obtaining control over another person, by either gaining more power directly or, more often, taking away their power, thus leaving them either dependant on you or unable to resist you in a meaningful way. For obvious reasons, then, this is something that comes up with GTS, and to a lesser extent, GTs. But i’ve been wondering; how would a yandere sw work?

To a certain extent, for a GT/f relationship, the normal sized person is actually going to have some soft power over the bigger one because, no matter what most GTS stories seem to think, turning giant isn’t a magic ‘I Win’ button. Even assuming the military just doesn’t blow their ass up with some missiles if they go on a rampage, either because they’re accepted for some reason, or they have something else to explain why the military can’t pose a reasonable threat… society isn’t made for a giant person, and we are deeply dependant on society for a lot of things.

There’s no clothes, obviously, but there’s also no food, no shelter, no good place to use the bathroom… and while those, also, can be explained by a magical kind of biology… what about TV? Cell phones? A soft bed? All those modern luxuries we’ve all grown to enjoy? There’s a whole world of modern civilization that a giant can’t really access… but a normal person could. That’s something to hold over them, and considering how stuff like email and social media works and how a giant couldn’t even use a keyboard, easily control what they’d learn about.

Beyond that, I’ve been rolling around the idea of a rich normal person patroning a giant, and her wealth being the only reason they have, like, a bed. And good food. And clothes. And that being a sort of de facto tool to keep the giant under their control, because where else are you going to get underwear for the seventy foot man? Not from your old, normal ex, that’s for sure!

But it’s different with SW, because the ‘giant’ here is the normal one; they are the ones with control over the tools of civilization, they are the one with the technological and financial advantages.

I mean, you could jokingly do it with the guy just kind of ignoring their crazy because of how little (ha) he thinks of her, letting her hump his leg or finger whenever she gets in the mood and not really reacting to it, and just kind of flicking them away when they’re annoying, but that seems… a waste of the idea. Unless you make the SW the breadwinner/rich person (which is possible), I think the only way to do it is emotional manipulation. An sw constantly preying on their giant’s emotions; stuff like, ‘I’m afraid, don’t leave me alone!’, or, ‘don’t be so cruel to me’, ‘you can’t abandon me like this’, or maybe even, ‘you did this to me, so you need to take care of me now’, probably mixed with some hard-core seduction.

It’d be entirely dependant, in other words, on the guy putting up with the abusive tendencies, where in any other format there’s an actual danger the woman can pose, or threat they can use, to back up their crazy.

Any thoughts on this, or ideas?

There’s an idea I’ve been thinking with recently: abandonment play. Or maybe flat out abandonment.

A focus that’s not the giant trying to train the SW, but the SW trying to get the giant’s focus at all.

Main example I’m picturing is shrinking a group of cheerleaders and leaving them in a aquarium tank. Just the tank. No food. No water. No furniture. Nothing. Just them and a wide expanse of glass. The thing is, things can be added… if they can attract attention to be given those things. Moreover, everything that’s added disappears at the end of the day.

So, not even to stay comfortable but to survive, they need their captor’s attention, every single day. No matter how little they like it, even if he just plays with them at least they end up with food. Worst yet, the more they do something, the more used to it, and thus less interested, he gets, and the more they have to escalate…

So, I’ve been pondering some story ideas for awhile, but I’ve realized I don’t understand something on a fundamental level, something that’s holding me back from lighter content: ladies, why do you want to be shrunk?

It’s just I need to understand a character’s major motivations to write them well, and I don’t get that. I get it as, like, a means to an end: hot person wants you to shrink (which I get intellectually but only see it in SM content, and don’t get the pull of doing it for a man, though I can get the logic), or it’s to save your life, or your family, or maybe you want to be partake in the never ending orgy of being part of in the lonely and somewhat bored shrunken harem of a giant big enough and with enough other bodies to easily lose track of you in the crowd (which is something I’m exploring in a few different flavors).

I can figure out how a SW might use being an SW, and maybe even enjoy parts of it (a cupcake big enough to sleep on!), but so much of my SW logic process revolves around a fight for control against the reality of the situation: use the Big for protection from the world. Make the Big like you so they don’t abandon you. Make the Big want you so they don’t hurt you. Bully a smaller SW so you feel big for awhile.

All of that tracks. But clearly, there’s an element of pleasure to it, something that makes people go, ‘I’m fine giving up my ability to actively do what I want, and instead give my life and death into the hands and involuntary movements of someone else’, or even just ‘all of that happened to me and it’s actually super hot!’

What am I missing?

Honestly? For awhile, at least, I’d install myself as a evil thing to appease/protector/patron god, get a system set up where tithes (including, of course, women) are sent to me on a regular basis, my basic needs are met (a home of some sort, furniture, whatever food I’d need, if I needed food) and just… chill. Have fun with shit; have the women read to me, dance for me, whatever.

Stomp an enemy army if it rolls around, have fun toying with any knights that get ideas, tame a dragon or something…

I’m pretty low key, and actually ruling something sounds like a pain in the ass. As long as I get mine, I’d be good.

If I had to choose one size, it’d be… somewhere between three to six inches, ish. Small enough that they can’t really interact with anything, while big enough to interact with.

That said, what I like can depend on my mood, the day, and what I’m looking for; there’s a certain level of cuddle based softness that can only come when you aren’t in danger of accidentally obliterating your partner by existing, but there’s plenty of times I want that to be the case, or to be a landscape for them to be trapped on. Hell, even a proper half sized has its perks, with a SW struggling to live a normal life, and often failing…

@TakoAlice8 said in I wish there was a term for exclusively male giants:

About using the word “giant” to exclusively refer to males of size. What would people use to describe people of size outside of the traditional gender binary? Xgiant or something like that?

I mean, giant, in itself, is a gender neutral term, it just means ‘big’. It’d make more sense to pick a male exculsive term… problem is how the english language works. There’s not really a good thing for the niche of ‘neutral’ because ‘giant’ is neutral, and for a male version, what? Hisiant?

I suppose you can just to ‘giant man’, but it feels awkward.

@DFP said in I wish there was a term for exclusively male giants:

? = tiny man
? = tiny woman

I often see ‘miniguy’ and ‘minigirl’ when searching e-hentai and the like. I feel like those would work well. Honestly, I’ve always used ‘giant’ as a male only term to go with ‘giantess’, but I’ve seen giant used for women occasionally.

…Huh. I’m not exactly looking for these arguments, for obvious reasons, but when I do see it the logic isn’t, ‘A woman doing this is corrupting someone because her body is EEEEVILLLL’ or whatever, it’s ‘a woman exposing herself like this is degrading herself and/or is doing this for/because of men’.

Like, I don’t doubt there’s people who say that, but it’s just not a tact I’m used to seeing.

For the record, the idea that women’s bodies have to be covered and hidden is stupid, and following through that logic means that men are horny animals with no control and something should be done about that since clearly there’s no self control possible. Which… is also stupid, but strangely enough I’ve never seen that argument come up.

In part because of curiosity, and in part hope to inspire more conversation here… ladies, what do you want in a giant?

Do you want them to be cruel, deliberately so, to tease and torment you? Do you want them to be kind and spoil you, love and cherish you? Or do you want them to be… indifferent to you, maybe even ignorant of your very existence?

Part of me has this brainbug about even imagining myself as a crueler giant, but I’m pretty sure the audience for it exists.

Honestly, I have to guess that a lot of size vore content is just… vore content, taking the most logical approach to eating a person: making them bite sized.

On vore? Because it’s very… primal. It’s predatory behavior, tying in well with how size fetish in general, and it’s a way to dominate someone and dehumanize them in a fundamental level, reducing them into food. When you eat someone, you take them, in their entirety, and you never will be separate again. Also, presumably, they’d taste good, and all that fun stuff involved in actual eating.

Mouth play has a lot of similar appeals, but non-lethal, obviously. It also allows you to combine pleasure and fear.

Insertion isn’t really my thing, but it’s probably similar to normal vore, but just… more of a focus on dicks and the sensation than eating.

When it comes to holding a woman, I prefer enough size that I can feel her, and I don’t have to worry about squashing her if I squeeze a little.

When it comes to a woman exploring me, however, I prefer that to be a bit more literal. Micro/macro, woman walking on a chest that isn’t just big, it’s enormous. Bigger than a house, bigger than a city, a living country in it’s own right.

I want to be so overwhelmingly more that I cease to be understandable and become an alien landscape.

Looks like Little Nightmares reskinned as Grounded.

@tiny-ivy said in Why do you want to be shrunk?:

but in the wider sense. I’m just wondering aloud why M/f seems like the rarest macro pairing out there.

Oh, that’s easy: because it’s not only the closest to ‘real’, and so not really a fetish as much, the dynamic, of a man overpowering a woman, is becoming more and more frowned upon, societally. Even beyond admitting a flat out fetish, at this point I’d never want to admit this to anyone because, publicly at least, no one wants this. Popular media is set to churn out the opposite, if anything. And so anyone with it is incentivized to hide it.

@Olo
I’d think it’d be more the other way around, if anything: a lot of size stories I see with giants of any kind have them take them being big and better as a natural state of affairs; that the overwhelming arrogance and confidence seems to make it better.

@TakoAlice8

Huh. That’s the second time someone’s linked shrinking with safety. I’m not sure what to think of that, but there’s definitely something there. And you want to explore things while small? Interesting.