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I just finished watching the first season of Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, part of the Legendary Godzilla movie-verse (great show, do recommend). Aside from the flashbacks to the 50s/60s, it’s set after the events of the 2014 film when Godzilla attacks San Francisco. One of the characters (Cate) who survived was left traumatised by the attack and, on multiple occasions, is triggered by certain moments throughout the show up to when she faces him again.

Now, I don’t normally find entertainment in people’s trauma (fictional or otherwise), but the show touched on a favourite gentle/comfort theme of mine in size-related stories: when a Giant is the source of a Tiny’s trauma, but also helps her manage it, first by confrontation then with more “hands on” methods.

It’s super flexible, could be incorporated into different scenarios, e.g.

• the giant may be directly responsible for what happened, or simply be a stand-in by virtue of being a giant;

• could be a literal giant (hence my mention of Godzilla), or a human amongst a tiny populace or community;

• maybe he’s been captured by the Tinies and limited in what he can do, or maybe the Giant and Tiny stumble into each other;

• maybe he doesn’t actively help her, but circumstances force them to interact, or she’s signed up to some experimental treagment.

If a Tiny is terrified, I am all for it. But giant exposure therapy? Slap that on me like butter on a pancake.

@TakoAlice8 said in What excites/pleases you most about this fetish?:

Although I am not either dominant or submissive despite being tiny in the size community, I did felt ashamed with being a submissive. It didn’t help that when I was researching about my fetish, I couldn’t find any articles or videos on women with macrophilia.

I understand this feeling, like guilt in feeling good about being submissive, weak and powerless while living in an already misogynistic society. And in line with what’s been said already, you are not alone and there is no shame in liking feeling that way - it is both a deeply personal feeling and one that doesn’t define who you are and how you value yourself or others.

Personally, I have been treated like crap for being a woman and, with age, have unlearned a lot of internalised misogyny and learned my worth in my private and working life. There’s still a lot of work I need to do to not take people’s shit, but what I know that is NOT part of that is undoing my predilection for being dominated by a hunky kaiju-sized man who stomps through the streets; crush me, my house and the house next door; sit on me, keep me in his underwear all day, roll me around in his mouth; gently or violently - whatever it is that makes me or other women in particular feel small and helpless. Even in RL, I like to be dominated by my partner. But at the end of the day, I want women, femmes and non-binary friends to feel safer and be treated better by our families, friends, co-workers and society.

All of them explained men having the fetish. A lot of them explained that women don’t have the fetish as much as men because of society seeing women as less dominant and men as big and powerful.

I wonder whether representative numbers or stats exist to back this. There are plenty of theories with regards to the lack of women in this fetish (and many other fetishes with power dynamics, I’m sure), including that women are simply not as vocal and, therefore, present. Which, of course, doesn’t mean they don’t exist as macro/microphiliacs, but (or maybe as a result), their views are also not sought after - and less so for asexual, femme, non-binary peeps, etc. There are a few interviews that I’m aware of, but they often centre around GTS content and the men who consume their material. Part of it is curiosity, but the other part is out of concern because, as you shared yourself, it can feed into misunderstandings of ourselves.

Anyway, from a sub, I hope you are able to find some solace in our little forum please keep sharing and asking questions.

@Technomage said:

All that woke crap has gotten insane, it makes me laugh some people actually feel ashamed for liking M/f.

The irony is that the reasoning is not even “woke”. As been pointed out, the anti-Mf sentiments are often out of touch (at best), or disingenuine (at worst). And the ones that double-down don’t like to be told that they’re wrong or that other people (especially anybody who is not a man) actually have their own personal views and takes on Mf.

Full disclosure: I’m not into vore myself, but have always been curious as to why others enjoy it - as the consumed, the consumer and/or the watcher. And after lurking and taking in some content on this forum, it seems to be quite popular here. Sure enough, the curiosity was piqued.

I’ve used vore as part of character building and development, but in terms of my own pleasure I’m more inclined towards mouth play with some fearplay thrown in - that’s my limit though. But it’s not about me: is anyone kind enough to share what makes it appealing to you?

No judgement

A wonderful and reflective piece, Olo. Thank you for sharing your perspectives - extending also to those who shared their views with you!

I share a lot of sentiments already covered in the posts above. Whilst darker content isn’t an integral part of a lot of my fantasies, I’ve come to accept or appreciate some stuff, and actually enjoy others, without feeling like I’m doing some terrible crime. The older I got (and hopefully wiser), the easier it was to reconcile with darker content and realise that people who enjoyed violence in their fantasies did not always means that they were, themselves, violent or horrible people. I think it’s easy to misunderstand content (and the people who create and consume) when it relates to something so deeply personal; that any deviations from your own interpretations isn’t simply annoying, but offensive.

It helped me a lot to view violence in size content through the lens of horror in fictional media - because I love horror movies. Does that mean I enjoy murder or whatever horrific content is being shown if it ever becomes a reality? No, of course not. Real life kaiju? Hell no. But as entertainment fodder in a controlled, fictional setting? Sign me tf up.

That’s not to say that I’m able to completely separate my personal morals or experiences from fantasies. There are certainly some things that make me uncomfortable which are grounded in morality, but it’s easier for me to just accept it and move on, no judgement to either creator or consumers.

@Technomage said:

Just don’t let them ruin the fun for you, this is a precious, harmless fantasy.

Way ahead of you. I already have so little regard for those kinds of people that it’s probably the closest I’ll ever get to feeling like a (dismissive) giant:

@nyx said in Sex Objects:

so I just created my own content, usually involving ridiculously hot giants because I have no shame. Since then the size community has expanded, so it’s a little easier to find content that emphasizes the giant man rather than focusing on just the tiny woman. Of course, I have an almost endless thirst, so I keep creating content with ridiculously hot giants.

There is no shame and I for one appreciate a lot of what you’ve written

M/f content is already relatively scant and, as you said, much of that is tailored towards male readers (and I’ve been able to identify this better as I’ve gotten older). Not inherently a bad thing and I’m not going to force people to create content that appeals to me, so I create my own content as well, containing hot, attractive giants. Unfortunately it has its limits and it does take a lot of effort to create, even in the right circumstances. I am fortunate however to have met one of my best friends online and we hype each other up - bless them!

First 2 episodes are out. First episode makes good use of the giant-sized Sentinels with a couple of nice handheld scenes, sadly not involving female characters much. Second episode doesn’t have size content, but one character has a monologue that is adjacent and made me a little flustered (he’s also got some silver fox daddy vibes, which I’m all for, campy costume and all).

I watched the original animated series as a child of the 90s and remembered that some of my favourite scenes involved the Sentinels - being one of the few characters 1) with a significant size difference, and 2) involved in handheld scenes, or similar. I was talking to @foreverlurk about how mechs will always have a special place in my interests since mech/giant robot content often filled a void in mainstream media. While I wish they were more humanesque, it was close enough to keep me wanting more.

Anyway, they nailed the 90s style animation and dialogue while giving it an update. Do recommend so far

I’m a personal fan of great/ancient god or demon kept in chains (physical or otherwise) and forced to do the bidding of whoever frees or summons him.

Not sure if this really counts, but I like the idea of the tiny learning to lean into her power. They dynamic might start off with her being kind of a pushover and the giant bullying her and generally throwing his weight around - except, that he can’t actually physically hurt her or do anything that could bring her harm. Among the things that motivate her to change is the fact that they’re going to be together for a loooooooong time.

@Olo it’s only been these past few months that I’ve been really appreciating larger size differences. The body as a landscape has me swooning and blushing something mad.

@Olo

@littlest-lily and @foreverlurk have covered a lot already, but I’ll also weight in. Unlike what the term suggests, it’s an approach to story-telling that’s not exclusively for women, but so named when understood as a contrast to the concept of the “male gaze” and as something that specifically centres a woman/women as a character.

For me, as mentioned, it’s about building empathy and understanding for a character (usually, a woman) as a person with emotions, rather than someone to be objectified. They normally also have some agency, even if it’s just to have an opinion or thoughts in a hopeless situation, rather than some voiceless, mindless doll. I think the “slower” pace is a consequence of this kind of narrative rather than a characteristic per se because it takes time to develop something/someone that is complex, rather than simply focussing on what they look like and how that will gratify the viewer/reader. So you can already expect a build-up like that to be relatively slow - just depends on how much of a burn or detail the creator wants to achieve.

This article is a good intro summary and also talks about respecting the character as well. Re: respect, I don’t think this should be synonymous with “liking” a character or putting them on some pedestal. You can create dislikable, even morally corrupt characters, who you can respect/have due regard for as a person with depth, motivations, struggles, joys, etc. And then you can throw them in the bin - metaphorically and/or literally, whatever floats your boat.

@blehb said:

I used to have A LOT of anxiety growing up, and anxiety is ALL about lacking control and certainty of the circumstances in your life. Well, having something much larger control your entire existence is the perfect manifestation of that fear.

For me, the idea of a giant being in control is a comforting thing - not because I don’t want control of my life, but because being an adult is exhausting! I think especially as I got older, when societal standards and personal circumstances put more responsibility on me to do and be certain things, I just wanted someone else deal with it: do the job, create plans, make decisions, solve the problems, etc. Thinking of a giant either dealing with things or whisking me away was my way of checking out of reality, to an extent.

On the topic of fetish origin stories, here’s an article from 2019 that may be of interest to some: it discusses adult diaper fetishes as a case study, but the discussion and points can be easily applied to other fetishes (some experiences being shared may even seem familiar and relateable). It’s a pretty “fetish positive” article, with little to no judgey-ness from the author or the researchers interviewed, so it’s good little read. The TL;DR can be summed in this quote: “Different people have different reasons for being involved in the fetish or lifestyle.”

This is another trope I really love in a size context. I think language and being able to communicate easily is one of the biggest things most people take for granted in the real world, let alone in a fantastical situation.

I’m not one to subscribe to the whole “too small/big to communicate, sound frequencies, etc.” except for the really massive size differences (like micro, nano, giga, etc.) - I like dialogue between a giant and a tiny, but when something else like a language barrier gets in the way, you’d be forced to compensate and get creative. Broken speech is usually a obvious go-to, but there’s also opportunity for the use of more physical forms of communication: signing, touching, body language, facial expressions (and reading them). By being so physical, it’s a great opportunity to emphasise their size differences: how closely the giant has to focus on her, or how big she has to make her movements; both the giant and tiny’s perspectives on their interactions and each other’s features.

Like with other tropes, it’s a very flexible one. It could also be applied to situations where either the giant or tiny is mute (maybe both!). One scenario I had I mind involves both giant and tiny being unfamiliar with each other’s language and there’s no easily accessible translator (maybe both peoples are isolated from each other, maybe one is other-worldly, etc.) And they both slowly pick up and learn from each other as they spend more time together. As a point of tension, maybe the giant is able to find another giant who can help, who is a bit more fluent than he is, but they end up making the tiny really uncomfortable. Being unable to understand, he doesn’t catch a lot of what the other is saying, but he notices something off about the tiny’s body language and gets them out of there.

From a creative/author perspective, I think it’s a fun little project. Personally, I’m not fluent enough in another language to make it reflect the real world, and I’m not invested enough to invent a language (let alone two) as an alternative. Instead, it would switch between POVs, with the other person’s dialogue being presented as garbled symbols. The POV character is able to catch the occasional word, with dialogue getting more coherent over time as both of their vocabularies grow. And throw in accents, for good measure

Countering feelings of inadequacy with, “It’s often the little things that occupy the biggest parts of our hearts.”

@blehb said:

Now I actually have to write it.

Would love to read it if/when you do

@Olo said:

This happens often enough that they develop a kind of semaphore, where he communicates through combinations of gentle squeezes on certain areas of her body and she responds with pre-arranged sequences of contortions.

Oh that’s a great method! So covert, very sneaky!

@foreverlurk said:

So, plan B : she starts to trace the letters on the palm of my hand (with a twig or something). That’s assuming we share a common written language, of course. I have no idea how I’d communicate back if she’s also deaf, but that’s a start!

She could also use symbols or drawings as well! Though, as a fun challenge for anyone keen, even the use of images can have it’s limitations: not all symbols or pictures will mean the same to other people, let alone someone from a different culture. So without a mutual understanding, you’re bound to hit some walls sometimes. I like to think about the icons developed for the Olympics as an example - you still need some form of reference in order to understand what they mean.

N.B. I’ve been made aware that I posted this around the same time another discussion on the same topic was being held on Discord. It was a total coincidence because I don’t use Discord for size stuff, but it made me laugh and happy to still be involved in other group discussions - even if it is through the ether