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@blehb said:

I used to have A LOT of anxiety growing up, and anxiety is ALL about lacking control and certainty of the circumstances in your life. Well, having something much larger control your entire existence is the perfect manifestation of that fear.

For me, the idea of a giant being in control is a comforting thing - not because I don’t want control of my life, but because being an adult is exhausting! I think especially as I got older, when societal standards and personal circumstances put more responsibility on me to do and be certain things, I just wanted someone else deal with it: do the job, create plans, make decisions, solve the problems, etc. Thinking of a giant either dealing with things or whisking me away was my way of checking out of reality, to an extent.

On the topic of fetish origin stories, here’s an article from 2019 that may be of interest to some: it discusses adult diaper fetishes as a case study, but the discussion and points can be easily applied to other fetishes (some experiences being shared may even seem familiar and relateable). It’s a pretty “fetish positive” article, with little to no judgey-ness from the author or the researchers interviewed, so it’s good little read. The TL;DR can be summed in this quote: “Different people have different reasons for being involved in the fetish or lifestyle.”

This is another trope I really love in a size context. I think language and being able to communicate easily is one of the biggest things most people take for granted in the real world, let alone in a fantastical situation.

I’m not one to subscribe to the whole “too small/big to communicate, sound frequencies, etc.” except for the really massive size differences (like micro, nano, giga, etc.) - I like dialogue between a giant and a tiny, but when something else like a language barrier gets in the way, you’d be forced to compensate and get creative. Broken speech is usually a obvious go-to, but there’s also opportunity for the use of more physical forms of communication: signing, touching, body language, facial expressions (and reading them). By being so physical, it’s a great opportunity to emphasise their size differences: how closely the giant has to focus on her, or how big she has to make her movements; both the giant and tiny’s perspectives on their interactions and each other’s features.

Like with other tropes, it’s a very flexible one. It could also be applied to situations where either the giant or tiny is mute (maybe both!). One scenario I had I mind involves both giant and tiny being unfamiliar with each other’s language and there’s no easily accessible translator (maybe both peoples are isolated from each other, maybe one is other-worldly, etc.) And they both slowly pick up and learn from each other as they spend more time together. As a point of tension, maybe the giant is able to find another giant who can help, who is a bit more fluent than he is, but they end up making the tiny really uncomfortable. Being unable to understand, he doesn’t catch a lot of what the other is saying, but he notices something off about the tiny’s body language and gets them out of there.

From a creative/author perspective, I think it’s a fun little project. Personally, I’m not fluent enough in another language to make it reflect the real world, and I’m not invested enough to invent a language (let alone two) as an alternative. Instead, it would switch between POVs, with the other person’s dialogue being presented as garbled symbols. The POV character is able to catch the occasional word, with dialogue getting more coherent over time as both of their vocabularies grow. And throw in accents, for good measure

Countering feelings of inadequacy with, “It’s often the little things that occupy the biggest parts of our hearts.”

@blehb said:

Now I actually have to write it.

Would love to read it if/when you do

@Olo said:

This happens often enough that they develop a kind of semaphore, where he communicates through combinations of gentle squeezes on certain areas of her body and she responds with pre-arranged sequences of contortions.

Oh that’s a great method! So covert, very sneaky!

@foreverlurk said:

So, plan B : she starts to trace the letters on the palm of my hand (with a twig or something). That’s assuming we share a common written language, of course. I have no idea how I’d communicate back if she’s also deaf, but that’s a start!

She could also use symbols or drawings as well! Though, as a fun challenge for anyone keen, even the use of images can have it’s limitations: not all symbols or pictures will mean the same to other people, let alone someone from a different culture. So without a mutual understanding, you’re bound to hit some walls sometimes. I like to think about the icons developed for the Olympics as an example - you still need some form of reference in order to understand what they mean.

N.B. I’ve been made aware that I posted this around the same time another discussion on the same topic was being held on Discord. It was a total coincidence because I don’t use Discord for size stuff, but it made me laugh and happy to still be involved in other group discussions - even if it is through the ether

Australia is similar - the laws will come into effect in December. Given the vagueness with things like what constitutes “reasonable steps” (for websites to prevent Australian children under 16 from having accounts), and what @foreverlurk said about the location of web hosts, I don’t imagine that DD will actually be affected by them. But I’m no expert.

What shits me is that it’s clearly not about safety for young people on the internet - or anyone’s safety really.

It’s usually context specific for me. I’ve gushed already about giants in armour or some form of uniform (particularly of authority), e.g. medieval fantasy setting, post-apocalyptic world, etc. I’m also on board with the corporate or business casual look. Honestly, a well fitting shirt and/or suit and good pair of boots won’t go amiss. Anything that cuts a nice figure into a fella, showing some effort in his appearance.

@SizePrize69 said:

I have this malegaze POV on size fetishism but I would love to dig deeper into femgaze.
I somehow have this preconceived idea that female writers tend to focus more on eliciting emotional responses and focus more on the build-up to sexual scenes.

Members have shared their thoughts on the male gaze/femgaze within size stories before, if you’re curious and for your goal. Not saying that it can’t be discussed again - I’m all for discussion - just that it might be a good starting-off point. We’re lucky to have some insightful members on DD

Re: your original question
I’m a woman and far more often prefer to consume free content, but I have spent money before - on comics, namely. My recent purchase was on Angel’s Giantlands comic that she has been working on.

As @foreverlurk has mentioned, a lot of excellent M/f content is very fortunately made free by authors/artists. I think because of a general lack of M/f content (even fewer if we’re focussing on female/femme-friendly content specifically), creators are happy to share out of solidarity with their fellow M/f fans. In saying that: I would also happily support by purchasing content, so long as it’s good quality, something I would enjoy and if it’s within my budget.

@SizePrize69 said:

Do you think that the preconceived idea that erotica is more popular with women than men is grounded on some truth?

Don’t know if there are peer-reviewed studies, but there is a general consensus that women consume more literary erotica than men. People have supposedly gotten numbers from Amazon (maybe other platforms) which have also reflected majority-female consumers of erotic fiction, and it’s generally understood that FanFiction writers and readers are majority women. There are different reasons why, but it is mostly attributed to women wanting to create/consume content that better caters to them rather than most mainstream content (which takes us back to the male gaze/femgaze discussion).

@i-am-insane said:

The giga/whatever male to the normal/micro female; there’s a bunch where the woman’s in the ‘I’m so big compared to them they might as well be a bug’s bug’ driver seat, but as much as I find women hot I viewpoint well through guys

Yes! I’m someone who is aroused by my partner’s arousal - I like to see and hear how turned on they are by the situation. So for sizekink, in a giant’s case, if being large and dominating (“in charge”, if you will) is arousing/enjoyable, then I’d love to hear it; the whys and what it does to him, how it turns him on. This is part of why I like literal giant scenarios - it’s about the giant being big compared to everything, not just the tiny being small compared to him. It’s one of those things that M/m has a lot more of, which I appreciate, but…again, I’m not the intended audience so, it only does so much.

It’s something I’d like to be able explore in my own writing, but I’m worried about inaccurately describing the small but specific effects of arousal on the male body. It stems from having read badly written women (think: “she breasted boobily” and other things that make you go “that’s not how that works…”).

Hey, you know those couple-y trope with a scary, intimidating guy who is no stranger to violence or brutality? But swoons over his sweet little partner, treating her with uncharacteristic care and gentleness? Which causes her to grapple with trying to reconcile how he treats her vs how he treats others? Prompting her to reflect on her complicity and/or powerlessness in their relationship, and eventually having to create some physical distance between them? And when she leaves, he is left to question what is more important: retaining power, or her happiness? At the same time, leaving her vulnerable to people who wish her harm by virtue of her association with him, maybe centred on some horrifying incident that she had been also been witness to? Leading to execution of a plan by said people to “disappear” her, that inevitably reaches his ears? Thus compelling him to go on a rescue mission?

Yeah. Except he’s a titanic rampaging juggernaut on a path of destruction until she begs him to stop.

Good trope. 10/10 would support.

@Olo said:

It seems to me that the basic error here is assuming that one’s sexual desires somehow reflect on one’s social values, particularly if one has a hidden or obscure kink.

I consider myself lucky to have avoided experiencing this kind of shaming that appears pretty common from M/f and SW fans. It wasn’t until when I was older that I realised that the fantasy could be (mis)interpreted as misogynistic. There is undoubtedly misogynistic material and fans out there, but I don’t think the fantasy itself is inherently so (both sexual and non-sexual content).

I think people grossly misunderstand by essentialising it to “big = dominant, small = submissive” and conveniently omit other elements like agency (a character’s or the fan’s), subject portrayal, audience, perspectives, themes, etc. It’s the same with F/m and GTS which can also get confused: I also think it is not inherently misogynistic and you would think exemplifies a fantasy where women can feel empowered. In reality, that is overwhelmingly not the case within the fandom and its content (even mainstream content tends to leans towards the male gaze) - consider, e.g. the paradox of power.

@Nyx said:

It’s the epitome of misogyny to dictate what a woman should/shouldn’t like.

simply put.

Video games can be such a great source of G/t interactions, although I find M/f scenes are fairly rare. I’m happy to be proven wrong so I thought, why not start a thread and collate some of them?

During my recent Covid quarantine, I finished playing Immortals: Fenyx Rising and, in line with usual depictions of the divine, the gods are actually pretty big in this (I’d say 50-60 feet? Given the stylistic proportions). So I was excited to find a couple of cute handhelds between the protagonist and Zeus in the game (and by some extension, interactions with the other gods who play a role in the story). Players can choose to play as male or female, and surprisingly a lot of videos portray the female option - how appropriate for this forum methinks!

There are some smaller interactions throughout the game that are captured I’m some other cutscenes, but I thought the end scenes were the most significant.

The game is clearly tailored to teens and young adults; cartoonish design, saturated colours, silly script, etc. But it’s fun, cute, and I’m not going to ignore a good handheld.

Warning, videos contain major game spoilers:

Zeus finds out the truth: https://youtu.be/W0LI_1ijKZY

Final boss fight/Ending: https://youtu.be/Ocis84_fBQU (you can skip the majority of this video to final cutscene at 44:50 following the boss battle. Handheld at 48:20)

@Olo in this one, she’s human and he’s a giant who’s been shrunk down small enough for her to carry around. It’s a curse or some sort of punishment to make him learn humility and/or empathy, and they have to figure out how to counter it. He drops hints that give away that he isn’t human, but they’re either too ambiguous or she thinks he’s exaggerating on account of his cockiness.

I’m better at handling F/m and SM content than I was before, but it still makes me uneasy so this first part is limited in sexual content, develops them initially as characters and their relationship and is otherwise a pretty typical “save the shrinkee” story. The second part then establishes that it’s not an immediate or straight reversal of roles. For example, he’s maybe ~10 inches (the size of a statuette or figurine) when shrunk, but humans are finger sized to him at his regular size. Another is that they figure out how to restore him, but they are separated as a result so they’re not together when it happens, and then followed by a time skip of a few years - allows for other kinds of growth and more weight to her reaction come their reunion.

It currently lives rent free in my head so I’m just taking a lot of liberties with elements I don’t usually get to play with.

@protect-tinies said:

My point is that I think some people might shy away from recognizing women’s fetishes because they don’t like the idea of putting a traditionally male and traditionally negative or “gross” label on women. It seems like people are usually more reluctant to think of women as being “gross” or having gross attributes.

I think the core of it is that people are so sex-averse that they view anything sexual or anything to do with sex/sexuality as “gross” or “disgusting” - which is so deeply problematic. As you’ve pointed out, it creates some pretty warped perceptions of what sex, and anything to do with what sexuality looks like. Personally, I don’t see it as a blessing to be incapable of being labelled as a “fetishist”, “kinkster” or whatever label you want to put in it, because it shouldn’t even be an issue in the first place. Perpetuating disparities creates misunderstandings and voids, and we’re all made worse off as a result - from as simple as the relative scarcity of female-friendly M/f content in size kinks, down to misconceptions of what/who constitutes a predator or problematic person generally.

@Olo thanks for sharing. I’d say that this sentiment is pretty well the same with so many other fetishes. There’s certainly parallels with size kinks! It’s a pretty ridiculous notion generally that women can’t have fetishes - then again, some people think that women don’t like sex, or that the female orgasm doesn’t exist. Then again again, maybe I’m just being hysterical

For the King Kong and handheld fans, episode 7 has plenty of scenes that may tickle your fancy. It’s a background building episode about Kong and his human lady friend that can be watched as a standalone episode (it just establishes the importance of a particular necklace and explains the emergence of the antagonist).

As a series itself, I liked it! Really easy to watch (only 8 episodes, about 20mins each), good universe/island(?) building, and I’m a sucker for Powerhouse Animation who also animated Castlevania, Seis Manos and Blood of Zeus.

@littlest-lily:

even in my imagination I don’t have any interest in being “bad” and deserving of punishment. I suppose I just prefer the idea of the shrinkee being an innocent victim (or it’s a happy consensual thing).

Same! Shrinking (or exposure to/living with giants) as a punishment for a tiny’s misdeeds isn’t usually my cup of tea either. There are plenty of ways to punish or humiliate (in some cases, dispose of) someone without shrinking them. I daresay that relates to my association with tiny things to be protected and giant things to be the protector. An exception, if you could count it, is a Robin Hood type situation where actions aren’t necessarily motivated by villainy: “stealing from the rich to give to the poor kind” of thing.

In my mind, being shrunk or to be put into a diminutive position is something to be overcome, literally (for survival) and/or metaphorically (the situation representing fears, being a doormat, etc.). So I guess, in a way, it’s still a “punishment” by virtue of being who she is or what she’s done, except it’s not what would be considered “bad behaviour”. In this case, who she is someone undeserving of more of the bullshit that life has thrown at her, and she must realise how to overcome her flaws, take control or make do of the situation before it destroys her, physically or otherwise.