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@SmolChlo said:
Can’t tell if there’s more of them or if their just louder
One way to think of it is as another iteration of the same gatekeeping behavior guys (online and off) engage in regarding their fandoms. I’ve seen it in comic books, video games, sci-fi, sports, and of course politics. As @Nyx said, GTSbros are extremely vocal, and since they think they invented size fantasy any deviation from their specific scenario is “wrong.”
It’s very… I don’t know, it makes me think of a death cult, sometimes.
I think at least part of this goes back to the poor self-image some of these guys seem to cultivate. They are attracted to women but they have convinced themselves that they have nothing to offer women, so the only satisfactory resolution is to have women destroy them. Reading their stories, these acts of destruction are invariably provoked by some selfish and entitled male behavior that needs to be punished. They feel that they are programmed to be selfish jerks, so they expect women to naturally agree to destroy them.
The key element here is that is an entirely self-absorbed fantasy that violently resists any input from others, least of all from any woman that is exposed to it. This isn’t roleplaying or fantasy-sharing, it’s narcissistic projection. When someone challenges or deviates from this “standard” fantasy, it’s a threat to their self-image so they feeled justified in harrassing the person who has different preferences. They can’t just let different folks get different strokes; we have to be silenced because we’re “ruining Giantess.”
@protect-tinies said:
One of the major differences between men and women is that women can’t feel sexually attracted to a man who they don’t respect.
I’m gonna have to disagree with this. Some straight women absolutely can be sexually attracted to men who they feel are beneath them (some of them insist upon it). Some of them need a man to look up to (heh). Some want an equal partner. All these preferences are valid and none of them say anything about such women’s character, intelligence, maturity, politics, or anything else.
@SmolChlo said:
The only time you’ll see the Giantess in me come out is on DA. Let me catch you being rude to a fellow M/f fan
As fearsome as tiny Emma on Gen V. She straight-up killed a guard by jumping into his ear and tunneling through to the other ear. Badass SW, she was.
I suppose I have to put in a #NotAllGiantessFans disclaimer, because I know several F/m fans who are into destruction/crush/fatal scenarios but who are also respectful people who don’t try to force others into performing according to their demands. There’s nothing inherently toxic about the destructive Giantess rampage scenario, it’s just got a vocal and embarrassing contingent of fans.
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@Olo said in Looking for source of this GIF:
I suppose I have to put in a #NotAllGiantessFans disclaimer, because I know several F/m fans who are into destruction/crush/fatal scenarios but who are also respectful people who don’t try to force others into performing according to their demands. There’s nothing inherently toxic about the destructive Giantess rampage scenario, it’s just got a vocal and embarrassing contingent of fans.
100%. A lot of this discussion relies on generalizations, but it’s important to keep in mind the entire community isn’t like this. And as @Nyx pointed out, there’s a lot of female-dominated fandoms online as well, and as someone who has been very casually involved with some, they can get EXTREMELY toxic as well.
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@Olo I should probably clarify what I said earlier, since I didn’t include a lot of nuance or detail. My fault.
I think the statement that “women need to respect a man in order to feel attracted to him” is a lot like the statement that “men are taller than women.” They’re both generally true, but they’re not a hundred percent true a hundred percent of the time. Most men are taller than most women, but there are certain women who are taller than certain men. There are exceptions to almost every “rule,” and every large group of people includes certain individuals who are outliers. I’m sure there are certain women who are very low on the “needing to respect a man” axis.
There are some women who have developed a very strong fear of men because of experiences they had when they were young. If a woman spent her entire childhood being raped by male family members, I think she’s more likely to protect herself as an adult by seeking out a man who’s “beneath” her and therefore less threatening. Also, if a woman is a literal sociopath or narcissist, or if she has certain other mental disorders (like paranoid schizophrenia, maybe), then normal psychology won’t really apply to her. Those are just a couple factors. I still believe that women’s sexual attraction to a man is primarily based on respect, but I also recognize that the idea is a bit more complicated in practice than it is in theory.
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@SmolChlo said in Looking for source of this GIF:
@i-am-insane “a closed mouth never gets fed” so maybe if we stand our ground and are more vocal about what we’d like to see we could have more M/f content? but then again it is up to the content creators. I wish I could make M/f content but I like to think my contributions to the community are that I’m loud and opinionated lol
The only time you’ll see the Giantess in me come out is on DA. Let me catch you being rude to a fellow M/f fan
It’s a long road to get any SW content since it is so niche. Hell, when Gen V was out and the SW in it was shown, everyone was immediately anting her to be big and it was like throwing red meat to sharks when it did happen, same with Cassie Lang, it feels like a small win when SW fans get a win but video people like DestructionDamsels and MissaX did so much GTS stuff because the SW audience is smaller and the GTS fans are so many hence why they always get fed and then they still complain.
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@giantmaneddie Fetish videos are so few and far between that it’s hard to make a generalization, but in imagery (particularly 3D rendering) there’s a lot of F/f stuff out there, and it really seems that most of those are created by straight men for straight men, which bugs me. I can see the potential M/f image in there, and I can’t help suspecting the render artist would have gone M/f if they didn’t fear backlash from their followers.
If any wlw here are so inclined, I’d love to hear any specific details s to how to identify F/f images created by women as distinct from F/f images created by men.
Of course I’m not going to pester such artists to make M/f images, just as I wouldn’t harass M/m artists (who render awesome male giants) to make M/f. It’s just frustrating (and so unnecessary).
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@Olo said in Looking for source of this GIF:
@giantmaneddie Fetish videos are so few and far between that it’s hard to make a generalization, but in imagery (particularly 3D rendering) there’s a lot of F/f stuff out there, and it really seems that most of those are created by straight men for straight men, which bugs me. I can see the potential M/f image in there, and I can’t help suspecting the render artist would have gone M/f if they didn’t fear backlash from their followers.
If any wlw here are so inclined, I’d love to hear any specific details s to how to identify F/f images created by women as distinct from F/f images created by men.
Of course I’m not going to pester such artists to make M/f images, just as I wouldn’t harass M/m artists (who render awesome male giants) to make M/f. It’s just frustrating (and so unnecessary).
I know Iva and Caddy, Moly too but they are NB who do F/f renders.
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I love this discussion. Fascinating stuff and you all are lovely and respectful even when disagreeing.
@Olo so this goes outside of size kink, since F/f isn’t my preference for size kink. But I do enjoy F/F vanilla porn, and usually, the creators will just label it as queer created. That’s probably the same for F/f?
A way to tell if it’s not labeled is I see more of a variety of body types in queer F/F porn - fatness, hair, older age, and voices will differ from the perfect Los Angeles porn starlet look. -
@tiny-ivy Thanks! “Tolerance for deviance” seems an excellent rule of thumb for identifying a WLW gaze.
