The space between SFW and NSFW

[littlest-lily]

Something that’s been on my mind lately and I’m curious to hear if I’m alone on this.

I absolutely have a size kink, no doubt about it. But the more I’ve embraced this side of myself in recent years and participated in the community and poured my creativity into it, the more I realized how much this is way more than a kink to me. And in fact, I now mostly enjoy it in a completely non-sexual way.

Which leaves me in a bit of a weird place, because I feel like online I tend to find a heavy focus on the sexual aspect in some spaces, or sexual content being strictly forbidden in others. I’m pretty active in a SFW group and really like it there - I just love thinking about all the logistics of being small, and all sorts of fluffy/wholesome/adventurous aspects of size differences. But I’m also very aware that a lot of the members in that sfw group are young, and so I definitely can’t freely discuss everything that I’m interested in. And that’s okay! But it would be nice to have a space where I know everyone is an adult and is cool with sexual content, but where that’s not the entire focus. Like how with my IRL friends and my partner, we can bring up sex to varying degrees in our conversations, but most of our day to day is not that.

Hopefully I’m making any kind of sense. It’s not really that much of a problem at all for me, I hope this doesn’t come off as complaining. I know that this site is perfectly amenable to sfw stuff, and I’m also content being in a couple of different groups within the size community. Just some musings I had, since I do often feel a bit like the odd one out.

[SmolChlo]

@littlest-lily what if you created a SFW group that’s strictly for adults? Mostly focusing on wholesome/fluff content but you need to be 18+ to join?

[i am insane]

Coming at this as an asexual who is only really sexual in their fantasies… yeah, I get it to some extent. Like, a lot of it on my end is I just like being big, and strong; I fantasize about a lot of things, but in all honesty a good portion of my RL SW content would be constant, low key cuddling, and I’m so unmotivated in normal ways that the drives of other people feel a bit off for me.

In a more ideal world, it’d be possible to spin off a VSW site and an SFW-SW site, but we’re such a small, isolated community (especially after the Mimizer age passed and took everything down with it), that I think such a community would wither and die, like all SW groups seem to do. It might be more practical to see if you could get a soft sub-forum spun off here, maybe?

[foreverlurk]

@littlest-lily

My tastes have evolved with time, too. I won’t deny there will always be a sexual undercurrent about my size fantasies, but anyone who’ve seen my stuff know I tend towards cleaner, less outrageous content and imagery. Not only because of the confines and limitations of AI, but because that’s what I like, personally.

A few years ago, before Jitensha created this place, I was contacted on the SWB by a few like-minded individuals who wanted to create such a space. They wanted to represent a more mainstream aspect, without so much focus on pornography. The goal was to create, quote, “a place to go that I’m not embarrassed to show my friends or girlfriend”. Still in my foreverlurk-ing phase, I didn’t put much thought into it and the project never got off the ground.

I’d be down for a SFW group, Discord server, or sub-board, where we can somehow verify the age of participants, and have a space to chat between adults. In the past, I’ve had uncomfortable RP experiences(!) where I had to stop after having doubts about the maturity and age of my RP partner - even for gentle stuff, I simply don’t want to interact with minors(!!). That’s why I now only RP after getting to know the person for a little while.

[blehb]

I totally get where you’re coming from! In fact, the NSFW stuff doesn’t really work for me on it’s own. Like I can definitely enjoy the content, but a good narrative is REALLY what I look for. Doesn’t matter if it’s gentle or cruel, I want that plot and development. Kind of a complicated kink I suppose.

If we were to classify things differently, maybe instead of different boards we can add additional tags that clarify the “type” of story it is? Like Romance vs Erotica vs Smut? Gives people an idea of how steamy the content is.

[miss-lillipants]

@foreverlurk said in:

I’d be down for a SFW group, Discord server, or sub-board, where we can somehow verify the age of participants, and have a space to chat between adults.

Seconding this. Whatever is easy to maintain.

Having been on SFW and NSFW boards as a minor into adulthood, I can appreciate having a space that is dedicated to sharing or discussing SFW content with the flexibility of discussing more mature topics.

I don’t want to infantalise young people who are coming to terms with being more sexually active and they should be free to safely explore that - I’d be a hypocrite to deny that as someone having been fortunate enough to be shown mostly patience and guidance along the way. But it’s the interaction between adults and minors that can be difficult to navigate. I’m sure I and fellow young’ns at the time on the Min’s forum made the adults pretty uncomfortable just by being present, so I simply did not engage with sexual content (which was fine because I wasn’t into it at the time). And now that I’m on the other side of that, I’m wary too.

In any case, happy to support this!

[giantmaneddie]

@littlest-lily Are you on Discord? Maybe you and others in places here and there can set up a SFW space, adults only though in case the kink leaks though.

[Giganto82]

@littlest-lily you could possibly make a discord group and make the rule that you must be over 18. But yeah I get what you mean.

[Olo]

@littlest-lily I’d like to clarify that what seems to be proposed here is a SFW-focused space outside of Daddy’s Dollhouse. If not, then close consultation with @Jitensha would be in order.

While my abiding interest in Size Fantasy is sexual, I would be delighted to see what a SFW-focused space would produce. I’m fascinated by Sizey world-building, which tends to be more thought-through by creators who aren’t mainly chasing their Size thirst.

Would this proposed space still be about GM/SW?

[The Big G]

Time changes all things even your sexual or non sexual kinks at the end of the day if your happy and not actively hurting others then play on

[littlest-lily]

Oh wow, I was anticipating crickets! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts ahhh I definitely feel that much less alone

I’m not sure I would want to take on the creation/moderation of a new group (however small) at this stage, but it’s so great to know there might be some interest if I try to tackle it one day. And if anyone else wanted to spearhead it, please feel free and I’d be happy to help! I agree that perhaps something like a Discord group could be fun, and perhaps it would be easy(ish?) to set up and free(ish?).

I definitely wouldn’t suggest changing Daddy’s Dollhouse in any way. It’s not like sfw content isn’t welcome here, and I think it’s a great kink space as is. I’m honestly not sure if I would keep it strictly SW focused either… While I don’t really have any interest in giantess myself, I’m less worried about the more obnoxious gts fans in a sfw-ish group. I’m not sure what all this would look like since I hadn’t actually considered creating anything myself!

But goodness gracious do I appreciate the words of support guys ️

[foreverlurk]

@miss-lillipants said in The space between SFW and NSFW:

I don’t want to infantalise young people who are coming to terms with being more sexually active and they should be free to safely explore that

Reading back what I wrote, I didn’t want to sound like I’m against that - I’m not naive either, and smart teens will always find ways around roadblocks. I mean, the Internet is a much different place than when I was a teen in the mid to late 90s, and I believe it’s now much easier to find out you’re not alone with this fetish in the world and exchange with like-minded people (and that’s a VERY good thing!).

I also didn’t want to sound like I’m against NSFW content, which would be hypocritical, since I do still enjoy it from time to time. I’m just saying that it’s not the first time I’ve heard about the need to have an “adult” space that walks the line between SFW & NSFW.

Anyways, if someone needs help I could give a hand on the technical side of things, but I really don’t have enough free time right now to take point on such a project.

[HHunter1]

Just curious, but would it be possible to put a branch here for SFW content. I know here is a bit touchy to show to ahh, lets call them the uninclined. But it would give those works a space and we could see if there are enough producers of art in that vain for a sperate page. You know, soil to plant the seed as it were.

HH1

[Olo]

@HHunter1 said:

would it be possible to put a branch here for SFW content.

I don’t have a problem with this, but I find it a bit ironic considering that part of the impetus for Jit to create this forum was that she objected to “the rough stuff” being ghettoized on other SW forums (e.g. the “Violent Shrunken Women” section).

[HHunter1]

@Olo I suppose. I hadn’t thought about that since that’s the neighborhood I spend most of my time in.
I was just trying to think of a way to help discover if there was enough support before they stepped out on their own ledge. But I also saw no problems with them posting here except not being comfortable sharing it with non-size fans. (Which I fully understand.)

HH1