Flipping the concept on it's head: Yandere SWs
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(It occurs to me that a bunch of people who don’t consume anime/manga might not know what yandere is… (oops on that last topic with it), so for a brief explanation: a yandere is a deeply possessive person who is ‘in love’ with someone, to the point of obsession, where they will actively do things to ruin their love interests life, isolate them from friends/family, kill off love interest, try to take away their independence by both physical, financial, and psychological means (lots and lots of gas lighting), all in the name of keeping the love interest theirs and only theirs. While the term itself is japanese, the idea clearly applies to stalkers seen in horror movies and crime dramas you’d see anywhere.)
Something I’ve realized is that yandere is a concept that is built of similar dynamics to size content: it’s about obtaining control over another person, by either gaining more power directly or, more often, taking away their power, thus leaving them either dependant on you or unable to resist you in a meaningful way. For obvious reasons, then, this is something that comes up with GTS, and to a lesser extent, GTs. But i’ve been wondering; how would a yandere sw work?
To a certain extent, for a GT/f relationship, the normal sized person is actually going to have some soft power over the bigger one because, no matter what most GTS stories seem to think, turning giant isn’t a magic ‘I Win’ button. Even assuming the military just doesn’t blow their ass up with some missiles if they go on a rampage, either because they’re accepted for some reason, or they have something else to explain why the military can’t pose a reasonable threat… society isn’t made for a giant person, and we are deeply dependant on society for a lot of things.
There’s no clothes, obviously, but there’s also no food, no shelter, no good place to use the bathroom… and while those, also, can be explained by a magical kind of biology… what about TV? Cell phones? A soft bed? All those modern luxuries we’ve all grown to enjoy? There’s a whole world of modern civilization that a giant can’t really access… but a normal person could. That’s something to hold over them, and considering how stuff like email and social media works and how a giant couldn’t even use a keyboard, easily control what they’d learn about.
Beyond that, I’ve been rolling around the idea of a rich normal person patroning a giant, and her wealth being the only reason they have, like, a bed. And good food. And clothes. And that being a sort of de facto tool to keep the giant under their control, because where else are you going to get underwear for the seventy foot man? Not from your old, normal ex, that’s for sure!
But it’s different with SW, because the ‘giant’ here is the normal one; they are the ones with control over the tools of civilization, they are the one with the technological and financial advantages.
I mean, you could jokingly do it with the guy just kind of ignoring their crazy because of how little (ha) he thinks of her, letting her hump his leg or finger whenever she gets in the mood and not really reacting to it, and just kind of flicking them away when they’re annoying, but that seems… a waste of the idea. Unless you make the SW the breadwinner/rich person (which is possible), I think the only way to do it is emotional manipulation. An sw constantly preying on their giant’s emotions; stuff like, ‘I’m afraid, don’t leave me alone!’, or, ‘don’t be so cruel to me’, ‘you can’t abandon me like this’, or maybe even, ‘you did this to me, so you need to take care of me now’, probably mixed with some hard-core seduction.
It’d be entirely dependant, in other words, on the guy putting up with the abusive tendencies, where in any other format there’s an actual danger the woman can pose, or threat they can use, to back up their crazy.
Any thoughts on this, or ideas?
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@i-am-insane This trope is terrifying. “You said you were gonna eat me…”
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@Olo
The SW sneaking into your clothes, into your bags, into your food, constantly stalking you, but she’s on you; no privacy in your home, no matter how hard you try. Threatening to reveal herself to friends and claim abuse unless you spoil her constantly. -
@i-am-insane Gosh I could see this becoming really tragic really fast! He’s a genuinely good guy and he feels bad for her if she’s freshly shrunk, and now his life revolves around making sure she’s safe and taken care of… And then she notices and manipulated him more and more, and maybe he also develops feelings over time (in a bit of a nightingale syndrome type thing, something I have thought before in the context of SW actually). Oof, I feel for him already!
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@littlest-lily
A lot of gentle SW scenarios, where the SW is a stranger, is often built around something like Nightingale Syndrome, where they devote time to caring for them and get attached, and the SW in turn gets used to being cared for and grows attached in turn.Rather than her being nuts right away… you could play it as a sort of… slide, since he is her world, honestly. Food? Water? Safety? Comfort? All of them come from the Friendly Giant. It becomes common sense for her to rely on him for everything, to call him for every worry. At the same time, the fact she has nothing else, no real way to spend her time, no others to talk to (or, if there’s other SWs, they’re only competition for the FG’s time), the fact that the FG has other options than her grates at her, even as the sheer helplessness of her situation eats away at her sanity; people aren’t made to be so helpless, after all.
And so, more and more, she demands more and more from the Friendly Giant, growing slowly crueler and more abusive, until on some level she starts thinking that she owns him, and isn’t afraid to throw a fit if he breaks that world view.
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@i-am-insane “Why can’t I come with you to work?”
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@Olo
“Where are you going? Are just going to leave me here, trapped on this table? I thought you were going to protect me. Don’t you love me?” -
My my… now this is something I would thoroughly enjoy. I’d find it entertaining to constantly test his boundaries just to see what I can and can’t get away with. Things like holding my breath until my little face turns blue if I don’t get the Victorian styled dollhouse I demanded. Crying out and pretending he accidentally hurt me whenever he handles me just to pull at his heart strings a little. It would be such a thrill to watch something so utterly massive stutter and profusely apologize for hurting something so delicate and precious as me.
Quickly shifting from love bombing to the cold shoulder until he’s the one begging for my attention -
@SmolChlo
Of course, that’s a dangerous game, because most things with yanderes end with the person noticing they’re being obsessed over… and the giant is the one holding the cards. You need to balance your stick usage with your carrots, otherwise your giant horse is going to walk off to do whatever he wants, with you stuck for the ride whether you like it or not.…
‘You’re saddled up; there’s no recourse
It’s, “Hi-yo, silver!”
Signed: Bad Horse.’I never thought Dr. Horrible’s Singalong Blog would feel topical to SWs, lol.
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@i-am-insane I was mostly playing into the Yandere role. I could never be this mean to someone, I’m too much of a little lover lol I also wouldn’t dare try to manipulate someone if I was smaller than the underside of their boot
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This sounds like a fun idea for a twisted version of Peter Pan where Tinkerbell (who is already basically a yandere) is just faking her death for fun and attention.
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@BigCuddlyGiant I’m surprised Tink hasn’t found a way to shrink Wendy.