I wish there was a term for exclusively male giants
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If there is a term for exclusively female giants, giantess, than it would only be fair to have a term for exclusively male giants.
I don’t like that there is just a term for exclusively female giants because women aren’t special, female is just a gender and gender is a construct. As a woman myself, I believe we aren’t special. It just isn’t very fair to just separate female giants from every other demographic. I am aware that some women use this term and I acknowledge that. Which is why I want there to be gender equality and have there be a term for just exclusively male giants. There are lots of gay men, woman, and other people that just prefer giants that are only male. If the terms prince and princess exist along with maledom and femdom, then I don’t think it would hurt to have a term like giantess but just for men.
Do any of you agree with me?
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@TakoAlice8
There used to be, it was giant. But much like vore started to include insertion, giant became a catch all term. Giant attacking a city, really a kaiju. Its just the way language works, the more a word is used a certain way the more it begins to mean that new version.But yes, I agree. Am a little tried looking up Giant and getting everything but.
HH1
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I agree that we need a better term for male giants, if only for the Size community. I actually find the word “giantess” to be both tired and too narrow for the many purposes to which it is put. If we’re getting into the business of defining new terminology for the Size community, we might also want to consider making a distinction between true giants who are larger than the rest of society and normal-size men who interact with anomalously tiny people.
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@TakoAlice8 The problem isn’t that women are special. It’s more that women are the exception. So, we come up with words like “giant” to designate large people, but then we start to show female giants, and we need a way to designate them, so we create the term “giantess”. The problem isn’t the language. It’s the way people use it. Because people are too lazy to type 4 extra letters “giant” gets used for big folks regardless of gender. Then we begin to label people that do correctly say “giantess” as sexist and insult them for speaking properly. It’s somewhat amazing to me because I’d get the same label if I started writing “men” regardless of gender so I could avoid typing 2 more letters. It’s not exceptionalism so much as laziness and political correctness run amok.
I’d suggest that within this community if nowhere else, the word “giant” be used exclusively to refer to males of size and “giantess” be used to refer to females of size. Also, any time someone doesn’t use the correct terms they be politely corrected.
@Olo Thank you for educating me. I have been wondering if I should refer to the keyword “giant” when referring to a tiny woman with a man, so you’ve actually cleared that up for me.
If I might expand this conversation a bit: are there terms for tinies beyond gender labels? As I wrote; I do personally refer to giants and giantesses, but we do seem to be sorely lacking at the other end of the size spectrum, at least as far as I know. The gap in my knowledge would be
Giant = giant man
Giantess = giant woman
Man = normal sized man
Woman = normal sized woman
? = tiny man
? = tiny womanAny help would be appreciated.
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@DFP said in I wish there was a term for exclusively male giants:
? = tiny man
? = tiny womanI often see ‘miniguy’ and ‘minigirl’ when searching e-hentai and the like. I feel like those would work well. Honestly, I’ve always used ‘giant’ as a male only term to go with ‘giantess’, but I’ve seen giant used for women occasionally.
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@i-am-insane ‘minigirl’ is pretty common for manga/manhwa, hentai and other Asian media, but hasn’t caught on anywhere else. Not having a single, easy word for “tiny woman” has been a problem for finding content since forever, made even worse by the enshittification of search engines over the years. “Shrinking woman” is even harder to look for, since you get lobbed with tons of irrelevant (to us!) stuff like weight loss, dwarfism, anorexia, etc.
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@DFP said in I wish there was a term for exclusively male giants:
The problem isn’t that women are special. It’s more that women are the exception. So, we come up with words like “giant” to designate large people, but then we start to show female giants, and we need a way to designate them, so we create the term “giantess”. The problem isn’t the language. It’s the way people use it. Because people are too lazy to type 4 extra letters “giant” gets used for big folks regardless of gender. Then we begin to label people that do correctly say “giantess” as sexist and insult them for speaking properly. It’s somewhat amazing to me because I’d get the same label if I started writing “men” regardless of gender so I could avoid typing 2 more letters. It’s not exceptionalism so much as laziness and political correctness run amok.
I’d suggest that within this community if nowhere else, the word “giant” be used exclusively to refer to males of size and “giantess” be used to refer to females of size. Also, any time someone doesn’t use the correct terms they be politely corrected.
Women being the exception actually better describes how I feel about the term giantess. I guess the term “giantess” upsets me because it reminds me how much our language is rooted in patriarchy, with people thinking the default gender is male.
About using the word “giant” to exclusively refer to males of size. What would people use to describe people of size outside of the traditional gender binary? Xgiant or something like that?
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@TakoAlice8 said in I wish there was a term for exclusively male giants:
About using the word “giant” to exclusively refer to males of size. What would people use to describe people of size outside of the traditional gender binary? Xgiant or something like that?
I mean, giant, in itself, is a gender neutral term, it just means ‘big’. It’d make more sense to pick a male exculsive term… problem is how the english language works. There’s not really a good thing for the niche of ‘neutral’ because ‘giant’ is neutral, and for a male version, what? Hisiant?
I suppose you can just to ‘giant man’, but it feels awkward.
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Trying to keep and modify “giant” seems futile. In English the suffix “-ess” is how a generic noun is “marked” as female. It’s a deliberately sexist construction, assuming the default person is male.
I think we’d be better off using another synonym altogether or even inventing entirely new words.