https://web.archive.org/web/20131206123743/http://violentsw.com/viagra_syndrome.html
Huh. Found it after all.
@rand
No idea, sorry. If someone had a Wayback link to the old VSW board, you could find it easily enough, but the board itself is down, I think.
There was an old, old VSW story called Viagra Effect. It wasn’t the best written, but the idea was they tested Viagra, it made men grow, and women shrink because of the men’s sperm. They all got tossed into a company town to hide this from the world where the men used the women at will and the women just were used to it, and literally gossiped about who was using them and whatnot, and then at the last minute the author had a couple from outside both try it and join the town as a GT/GTS couple.
No idea where’d I’d find it, but this makes me want to reread that.
Is chaotic neutral an armpit, on the shoulder, or in the breasts?
Anyways, I’m pockets, all the way the way down; I love having all sorts of things in my pockets for any given situation, no matter how random or unexpected; lawful neutral baby!
I am a font of ideas that I never can write into a proper story because of my scattered focus, lack of time, and constant exhaustion.
One of my old favorites is a sleeping giant of some form, either a ‘normal’ one or a more inhuman like a dragon, sleeping somewhere, and then a women runs in needing protection.
Maybe a princess running from traitors, a explorer of some form being hunted by monsters, whatever, but she runs in, and the giant’s barely awake response is, ‘You are now my teddy bear’, barely even noticing she’s there, just grabbing her and snuggling, which incidentally protects her from her pursuers since, you know, giant. Maybe he even rolls over and they just think they’re staring at a wall instead of a person.
Eventually he wakes up proper, realizes she’s there, and they talk, and realize that this arrangement actually works out for the both of them.
Well, continuing the trend of add my opinion to something I have no control over, lol, I don’t think we’re in a place to discriminate against AI art, as a fetish. We’re too desperate for content and people to consume it, you know?
I know I’m not an artist so I don’t really have skin in the game here, but as long as it’s not spammed, and labeled, maybe, isn’t it fine?
I’m both asexual (I’m… somewhere on that spectrum; I glanced once or twice, but I never really looked into where, exactly, I fell into it) and in the fetish end of the fetish.
I’ll admit, it’s been strange, at times. So much of this can be a deliberately sexual thing, and, while I started off not really getting the sexual end, and while I still deeply like and crave the more wholesome end of it, to me SW is a very much something sexual for me… Which. Is odd, considering how I’ve never had sex, or dated, or anything, and never plan to. And yet I enjoy the stories focusing on sex and relationships the most, to the point where I’ve written one where sex is a heavy focus.
Trying to bridge these two extremes has been uncomfortable at times, but I’ve got to admit that the SW community (I’ve never been in the GTS end, and what I’ve seen and heard has scared me off) has been absurdly welcoming. Honestly, the community has felt like it’s just been happy to have me here, even if I didn’t do anything, or contribute any content, just because we all this share this one connection.
I mean, beyond the usual, ‘hold this SW in/on my hand’ thing?
…Personally, I have this urge to engulf people. Like, if I was hugging someone of a more normal size, or laying in bed with them, I’d want to wrap around them, and if they’re smaller? I just want to… hold them to my chest. The smaller they are, the more I basiclly want to tuck them in myself, or under my clothes or something. I just want maximum amounts of their surface area covered by my own body.
It’s like being the big spoon on steroids, basiclly.
So… kinda, but more as a side effect than as the stated goal.
@Mrgoblinging7
Yeah, I’ve read that, though it’s been awhile; it’s a sequel series, and called the Liveship Traders, if you believe the internet. Part of the reason I brought this up is living ships are common enough, but the idea of ‘ships as equals’ aren’t often explored to the full extent, with how much control a ship could have over it’s occupants, which is very size-y to me.
Hmm. Well, this all seemed more accepted than I thought. Does anyone know how some GTS fetish artists draw dragons? As giant women, but with claws, fangs, and scale bikinis? I’ve always thought about flipping that them with a dragon guy instead, and then applying some classic stuff with princesses or female knights or whatever with them.
What’s everyone’s opinions on these? I know generally we prefer human or basiclly-human giants and/or tinies, but what about things that don’t fall in that typical slot? Giant robots, dragons, and the like?
All this talk of giants recently has reminded me of one of my older ideas; a living ship a stranded woman gets trapped inside, with the two of them trying to negotiate with each other for their various goals. It has a lot of the typical power dynamics, and there’s plenty of ways for interaction to happen, but I’m not sure what people would think about something so… unstandard.
You know, I’ve seen talk that men, as a whole, aren’t sexualized, at all. That is to say, societally, men aren’t looked at as desirable for being a man who looks attractive, but because they’re doing something to be desirable. Men aren’t complimented for being hot, or looking good, or… anything like that.
And personally? I can believe it. It’s mixed up with me, I think, because I’m a bit too unimpressed by men for it to be normal, but outside of like, fan girls, I’m not really sure I’ve seen examples of people saying, ‘this man is hot!’ beyond poorly written porn/power fantasies, and even then it’s rare. Meanwhile, women being viewed as attractive is all over the damn place.
And again, it’s probably a bit mixed up with my own stuff, but as a man I’m not sure how I’d write a man as being attractive. Part of it is I don’t get it, true, but it just feels weird at some level to even think that way. Ironically, GT would make it easier, because it can be disconnected from just being being masculine and rely on the attraction of raw power, but the problem remains.
On giants as a whole, a big part of the reason I’ve never written a GT story is that because getting it right in a setting is hard. The easiest way is magic, but having them in any sort of modern setting just comes with whole lists of logistical problems its hard to resolve. I’ve been brainstorming a setting for awhile, and I think I’ve gotten it pretty close to having it viable, and it involves wars/uprising to get giants into a high place in society, improbable stuff like parts of their biology being environmentally advantageous, food/water needs not matching what you’d expect, and actual stipends for them to stay in their homes or giant designed areas. I’m putting all this work into a making a setting where giants and humans exist in the same places as semi-equals, and that just says a lot, I think.
@littlest-lily
It’s something I’ve talked about on this site before… somewhere, but I get the impression that a lot of GTS writers are men, and it’s as much about desperately needing to feel not in control as it is ‘women are sexy! Big women are more sexy!’, only it’s escalated with them to the current GTS fetish status. SM stuff still falls under similar ways, from what I’ve seen, it just seems less extreme because it’s focused on a small group of small people, rather than just the entire area, so the woman seems more rational when not interacting with the SM, and it’s often more about control than just destruction.
SW/GT stuff, meanwhile, does have men treat SWs like women treat SMs, but it’s only some of the content, not all of it, which is interesting. There’s as much gentle SW stories about men or women taking care of SWs as there are of SWs being oppressed. If we’re accepting my previous logic of ‘a lot of GTS/SM stuff is about men needing to not feel in control’, then the men writing it don’t feel that need, while the women involved, who have similar needs, are… handling them better? Societally, I think men wanting to feel in control is ‘acceptable’, so it’s easier to manage it, while women not wanting to feel in control is ‘acceptable’, so it’s easier to manage for them?
Most GT pics I’ve seen are similar to GTS in that they just destroy everything around them, but GT stories, in my experience, are almost as much a mix as SW stories, while GTS stories are generally the same as GTS pictures. I agree about the focus thing; GT/GTS fics focus on how powerful the big person is, while SW/SM fics focus on how weak the small person is, though by nature of the content that seems largely inevitable. GTS pictures and comics overwhelmingly show the women from an outside context, while stories, without the pictures of big women and boobs and legs, are often more balanced in their perspective, while SW pics focus almost entirely on the SW most of the time… and all of that feels like it’s focused on the male interest on the topic, rather than the female interest.
Though maybe my own perspective as a man are skewing my perception on it, I don’t know.
@littlest-lily
Oh no, I agree, micro stories are fun, but since it’s basiclly impossible to have normal interaction they’re harder to write and indulge in. Generally they tend to short stories more, since there’s less to explain than something longer and more in-depth.
@littlest-lily
Nope. I mostly go searching GTS content looking for F/f content, and never once have I really seen logistics addressed even slightly in a GTS fic. At the end of the day, I honestly get the impression most GTS fics, or pictures or comics or whatever, are all just someone venting something, and it’s only about the power and crushing and worship, either doing it themselves or by being the one crushed. Once a woman goes giant, everything goes perfect and they are unstoppable forces of nature, instead of being doomed to probably starve if the military doesn’t blow them up first for the massive casualties they always seem to cause after they promptly lose their minds and personalities they had before growing and turn into murdering psychopaths.
Honestly, the reason I’m so anti-SM/GTS is just that side of the fetish is so… toxic with whatever that is. In theory, giant boobs and legs and whatever sounds great, women are hot so more woman to be hot is good, right? In practice, me as a man reading them feels like indulging in self hate for my entire gender.