Something to get off my chest
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Warning: I know I have complained a lot about the inequalities in the size community especially between the F/m and M/f community. Incase you are tired of hearing my complaints about this please don’t read the rest of my post. This is just something I had to get off my chest, if it upsets anyone too much I will delete this post. I am not attacking any groups, I will be talking about the F/m community quite a bit but I will not be attacking them or going against them in anyway. These are just purely my feelings.
Ok on with what I am about to say. I hope this doesn’t violate any guildlines or ruin the forum experience.
I know this site was created for fans of gigantic men and tiny women. And there is also gigantic men content that exists on the internet. But for some reason, I cannot help but to feel this way sometimes. I feel really jealous of tiny men, especially of F/m fans. I feel really jealous of them because their community is so prosperous and rich with content. There are many games, art, stories, and videos made for F/m fans. Because there is just so much content, I just can’t help to get jealous at times. I also feel jealous at them because they represent macrophilia outside of the size community. Macrophilia is known as the giantess fetish because of them. This has bothered me so much that I sometimes have wished I were a man so I can have this abundance of content to cater towards me. I know that I can never be a man because it would mean changing my entire brain and dna structure. I have tried to cope with this jealousy many times but it keeps coming back. I do like the M/f community being small, I honestly like how this forum has an underground feeling to it because it is not super popular currently. (To be honest, this website is surprisingly very well designed for a forum site.) But it can be really tough trying to cope with being jealous of a community that is far more abundant than yours. I have tried avoiding GTS content and only looking at GT to give myself the illusion there is as much male giant content as there is giantess content. But it is really hard to avoid giantess content because it is everywhere.
I really hope posting this will help me better cope with the jealousy I feel towards the F/m community. This has been a very emotional post for me. It was very long. If this somehow offends anyone, I will delete this post.
If you have managed to read this whole thing, I applaud you and thank you for listening to my feelings.Anyways, that is all I have to say and have a good day
My size may be small, but my will is bigger than y’all
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@TakoAlice8 oh yep. I’ve felt this. I definitely envy male gts fans. It drives me nuts that they’ve dominated the discourse about this fetish too.
One way it’s been particularly annoying is that for video content, I can’t really stand most videos, because I am absolutely taken out of the fantasy by bad acting on the giant’s part. I already have enough trouble believing in the scene while watching the video, bad acting ruins it for me. Because of this I only like a handful of creators who make moody giant man videos with no dialogue, and CG artists.
And the CG artists are overwhelmingly giantess artists. There is no 3d artist making high quality, clip-length videos about vore or large size differences with giant men. I am just barely bisexual enough to enjoy Wiiking’s videos. (The Locker Room , etc.) He’s an absolute master of 3d vore movies, but it’s ALWAYS women around shrunken women and men. I’ve fantasized about being rich and commissioning him for many months of his time to make just one M/f vore masterpiece. But I may as well just fantasize about a giant dude being real at that rate!
It’s frustrating being in a niche part of a niche subculture! I’m there with you!
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@TakoAlice8 Your feelings are perfectly valid, and your observations seem correct to me. It is undeniable that F/m content, sites, creators, and traffic is vastly greater than that of any other size preference/orientation. It is unfair and demoralizing. You have a right to feel jealous and angry about this. Everyone here shares your frustrations.
There really isn’t much to do about this except to be vocal about male giants and shrunken women whenever size fantasy is discussed. I admit I enjoy riling up the gobbess-bois over at Giantess City by insisting on equal time for M/f. The struggle will never be won in our lifetimes, but we will be heard.
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@tiny-ivy I’m here to tell you that the acting/dialogue in F/m videos isn’t any better. But I really feel for you on the 3D animation thing. There are like three master animators doing size stuff, and none of them will go anywhere near male giants. I haven’t looked at any animated clips on Coiled Fist, but I suspect that any good depictions of male giants will be found there. Even if you won the lottery, you would probably have an easier time getting a M/m animator to do M/f stuff than getting a F/m animator to work with a giant cock.
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Not long ago I realised that this is a problem with pornography on the whole. Straight men are always the presumed audience, so that’s where all the money and effort goes. Then as interests get more niche and granular, you run into the same problem tenfold - women are largely disregarded within a largely disregarded paraphilia.
I try my best to address the balance (though I’m largely selfish - I make art of the stuff I want to see more of). But it’s depressing to think about how much of an uphill climb it will likely always be within our culture on the whole.
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Yeah, I think most of us can relate for sure. It bums me out that not only is most of the size content F/m, but even with SW I feel like it’s mostly F/f, and with giants it’s mostly M/m. Like you were saying, I have no problems with people enjoying what they enjoy, but it can be pretty hard to be into a niche within a niche.
Sometimes venting without searching for a solution is necessary, and I totally don’t mean to take away from that! But I figured I’d share some of the things that have helped me personally with this.
For one, being part of this community helps a ton. I enjoy content like stories/art/etc, but I really value conversation too, and it helps to feel less alone. I hardly ever look at any content/discourse around GTS anymore and it’s easier to focus on the plethora of M/f content that DOES exist.
Creating my own stuff was also huge for me. In almost everything I do I LOVE being creative, and directing that towards size stuff with drawing, writing, crafting, etc is something that I’ve found profoundly fulfilling. Not only that, but I’ve found that by sharing my creative projects I’ve been able to find more like-minded people and then engage with their content, and that’s been lovely too.
I’ve also been finding a lot of fulfillment in the SFW community. This works for me because, personally, 9 times out of 10 I’m not looking for anything sexual. I just love the angst, the fluff, the adventure that can come with shrinking. And maybe it’s because it’s not porn, but I’ve found more M/f content (proportionally to other gender combos) on the sfw side than the nsfw side.
If you’d like to support me and my work, please feel free to leave me a tip and I will be so grateful! https://ko-fi.com/littlestlily
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@TakoAlice8 I’m going to agree with everyone else in this thread. I’ve definitely felt frustrated about the lack of M/f content since I discovered the online size communities. What makes me even more frustrated is the seething hatred that M/f creators and fans constantly have to endure. I’ve created all kinds of size content, including giantess stuff, but I’ve always had a special place in my heart for big guy/tiny lady scenarios. Every time that I posted something M/f instead of giantess-related, I received all kinds of awful comments, ranging from “Why don’t you just focus on giantess stuff?” all the way to “What the hell is wrong with you? This is disgusting.” I could go on and on about the problems in the giantess community, which is one of the reasons why I’m concentrating on giant man content for the foreseeable future.
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@Olo Thank you so much for validating my feelings, I was honestly a little worried to post this.
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This imbalance has been around for a long time. I can say that with confidence since I might be one of the longer tenants in the community.
We used to have chat sessions on the IRC (Internet Realy Chats) on various channels. Any time we set up a sw room for the fans of sw, some sm would come in. the biggest problem we had was as soon as anyone that came into the room with a name that looked feminine, the tiny horndogs would bombard them with PMs and drive off the possible new sw who might be looking for a GT or GTS to play with them or do whatever they wanted to be done to them.
Now it is happening on Discord. But I’m the victim of these PMs. I would get some guy begging me to shrink them and they wouldn’t take no for an answer when I told them I was into shrinking women. They would come up with scenarios where I would find them shrunken with their female counterpart and asked what I would do. I tell them I would take the girl and leave you to nature or toss you to a GTS. I ended up blocking a number of them to now where I barely go on if at all.
There are a number of great artists and writers out there doing sw stuff. You just have to look around here, DeviantArts, and some of the forums (look for shrunken women threads). Patreon has a few there also who are doing great work.
On Amazon, I follow and read work by Amber Collins, Tina Tempest, and Tiny Tina to name a few. If you find one you like, scroll down on the writer’s page or the book’s page and you’ll see other works by them or other people you might like.
As for new artists or writers, I will tell anyone who asks when I’m at Size Con or in private just sit down and put to paper (or screen) your ideas that YOU want to see in a work. Some of us like a little bit of violence others like the gentle stuff. Just put down what you like to see or read. I took up the challenge back in the dial-up days of the Internet when we had very few places to go to find size-changing stuff. I tried my hand at photo manipulation and writing. I stuck to writing when I saw how great others were doing the pictures back then.
Don’t get disappointed by the lack of M/f stuff. Look around in the odd places and keep an eye out for links to some of the good stuff that is out there.Discord: TheReducer#0977
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@TheReducer Great ideas, sir. We desperately need permanent subforums for Recommendations and Requests.
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@littlest-lily Those do help a lot. I really like the SFW g/t community especially since I am ace, I really like looking at friendlyfoxpal’s work on deviantart. There can at times be some niches that I have that not in SFW, but I found it helps a lot. I do like to draw my own stuff too, it can be a bit labor intensive, but have enjoyed sharing pictures on this site.
It can be really difficult being part of a niche within a niche. But this community shown me there are something’s to look up to when being part of a very small community. For me, it seems as if there is less toxicity because there are less people and so less discourse.
Thank you for sharing some tips that can help me cope.
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@Nyx Don’t let those toxic people get you. Stay strong
My size may be small, but my will is bigger than y’all
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It’s funny.
I’ve spent my entire post pubescent life grappling with the concept of Male and Female power dynamics. On one hand, I’m a Race and Gender Abolitionist. I’m a good feminist and soldier for Gaia, I believe that patriarchal power structures supported by the capitalistic power of Mammon will not just be the death of my country, but the world if not demolished and abolished. I’ve dedicated my life to fighting the monstrous society under which we all currently exist and long to build a better, more equitable world.
On the other hand, I’m a rapacious sexual sadist with a bottomless appetite for domination, subjugation and blood. I’ve felt a terrible guilt and rage my entire life, nurtured and shaped by my catholic upbringing. I used to beat myself up for liking sexual situations about shrinking and dominating powerless, tiny, helpless women. I truly bought into the fact that I was an evil monster, existing solely on this earth to torment and be tormented.
And then I found the size community.
When I was young, I envied tiny men. Here was a large group of men who found female empowerment sexy by every definition of the phrase. I asked why I was such a coward, someone who needed to dominate and bully his sexual partners to find release. I began overcompensating in the opposite direction. It is for that reason today that even though I’m a perverted weirdo, I still try to be a gentleman.
But as time went on, I started hearing the stories about how these “Sexually enlightened” individuals would bully and harass women for not partaking in their shitty little fantasies. My shame began to metamorphose into seething rage. This whole time, they preached empowerment and women’s lib as a cover to ride a powerful woman like a pack animal. The stories just kept pouring in year after year. My contempt grew like a weed. Not only are these little rat dicks eclipsing all other content, they give the rest of us tangentially related to them a bad name.
I don’t feel this way about tiny gay men, they are an entirely different phenomenon. There is a specific type of straight, mostly white, tiny, usually conservative leaning male. They make my skin crawl and my blood boil.
I began to see this prejudice in myself, and like a good little catholic boy I got out my cat-o-nine-tails and began to punish myself. I went out of my way to be nice to these people. Then one of them stabbed me in the back (Metaphorically).
Don’t envy those people. They are vile. They are beneath your contempt. They are not worthy of your time, attention, or even a moment’s thought. They certainly aren’t worth mine.
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@Giant-Gripper Here, have all the upvotes.
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@TakoAlice8 said in Something to get off my chest:
@Nyx Don’t let those toxic people get you. Stay strong
Thank you! I try to focus on the positive aspects of the size community whenever I can.
